Graveyard Carz

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don't need the drama of the reality TV shows.....I get my fill right here.....know what I mean, Vern?
 
The shenanigans do get a little over the top. But I will put up with them to watch a show with Mopars. At least there is a show that lives and breathes what we do. Mopar.
They can't be all that bad... Right ?
 
Oldmanmopar said:
What a joke. The chevy and ford guys are probably laughing there *** off. Someone should blow that shop up. The kicker for me was the owner setting the freshly painted valances on the metal lift and sliding the one to fit the other . That's it for me I won't watch it hoping it don't make it another season.
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blow that shop up...wow
 
I went out there and stayed a week with the Graveyard Car boys in Oregon... I did a story for Auto Enthusiast which was published early last year or late '11..., just before they got their break on Velocity...if you look up back issues of the magazine, Im sure youll find it.
Mark certainly knows his Mopars..especially 68-71 cars...that's his specialties...B and E bodies...
Darren, Josh and Royal were certainly nice guys...happy to see them flourishing out there....
 
I really find it funny how much a lot of people criticize them, but I would like to see them (critics) do better work...
 
Hey John, just been living life, you? Hows the B-cuda coming?
 
OK - about the bumble bee stripes on a Challenger. They were always painted on from the factory and never vinyl. The reason is quite simple, the vinyl material from the late 60's was a calendered material that could not conform to such complex curves. Also, when a car was coded to get a tail stripe, the stripe color was painted on the rear of the car first and then masked off. Again, the reason is very simple: it takes a heckuva lot less material and time to cover up a little stripe and shoot the rest of the car than it does to tape up and mask the entire car in order to shoot the stripe color. As such, a car truly restored to OEM standards would have a paint lip that is reversed versus painting a stripe on after the car was already painted, in other words, the stripe would actually be lower than the paint on the body.

Also, as mentioned above, there was never any clear used from the factory. All paint was single stage back then.
 
challengergary said:
OK - about the bumble bee stripes on a Challenger. They were always painted on from the factory and never vinyl. The reason is quite simple, the vinyl material from the late 60's was a calendered material that could not conform to such complex curves. Also, when a car was coded to get a tail stripe, the stripe color was painted on the rear of the car first and then masked off. Again, the reason is very simple: it takes a heckuva lot less material and time to cover up a little stripe and shoot the rest of the car than it does to tape up and mask the entire car in order to shoot the stripe color. As such, a car truly restored to OEM standards would have a paint lip that is reversed versus painting a stripe on after the car was already painted, in other words, the stripe would actually be lower than the paint on the body.

Also, as mentioned above, there was never any clear used from the factory. All paint was single stage back then.
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My previous comment was incorrect.. I re-watched the episode. Mark stated that previously Mopar had used a vinyl stripe (decal) on the tails of their cars, but that the chally stripes were painted. He also admitted that he messed up by not painting it on first. To me that's a pretty stand up thing to do, to tell the world on tv that you made a mistake. And for those who said they would be pissed if it was their car, I'm sure Mark communicated this error to the customer. I still believe they turn out very nice cars
 
their work is top notch...Ive seen it up close. Their paint jobs are insane....he is a perfectionist to say the least...
As we know, these reality shows are very fabricated...story lines are stretched... its all in the name of entertainment...
But they do amazing restorations. and if you notice, they lay all the parts out first, which is huge. Cars will go together quick if you have every part you need at your finger tips...
 
I like the show.

If I was a rich-money-is-no-object dude...they could build my Mopars any day of the week.

And like an above poster said...I think it's better this season...it's getting more car and less drama oriented.

They are just walking that fine line of trying to bring in more viewers.

Paul
 
Drama sells. Look at American chopper. But they don't have that strong story line. I'd rather just see the cars...
 
scottylack said:
Drama sells. Look at American chopper. But they don't have that strong story line. I'd rather just see the cars...
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True... I get the impression that drama (on some level) will always be needed to bring in the broad audience.. its like racing on tv (especially Nascar) some poeople tune in for the wrecks more than the racing.. know what I mean? lol.. I am just happy they are showing a bit more of the car stuff this season. And as several have stated, I can live with a little Hollywood type drama for a show devoted to Mopar.. I have talked with Mark, and Darren both on Facebook and Twitter, and they seem like cool dudes to me. Mark retweeted a pic of my Dart yesterday, which I thought was pretty cool.
 
bottom line. i love ANY show about mopar, it could have been about toyota or fords. so finally mopar gets it's due. go graveyard, will buy a shirt this summer if they have them in "tent" sizes!
 
I don't support the idea that you need fake drama to be popular on television in every instance. In particular when the network is automotive related. I get why it's done when the shows are on Discovery or TLC. Those networks are trying to have a broad appeal. The show before or after yours could have nothing to do with automotive's, so the fake drama will keep those who don't care about the subject tuned in to watch the personality train wreck. But, Velocity is an automotive channel. They are trying to build an audience who understand and appreciate the subject matter - there is no need for the fake drama!
 
agree.... its annoying at times... I could just watch guys and girls build and talk about cars without the fake bull crap....
thats why some shows fail... like that Desert valley Cars, or whatever it was... so fake...when they knowcked over the Barracuda rear windshield...and paind 1500 for a new olne.
I can grab 10 of those right now for 50 bucks a pop
 
ccrhost said:
I don't support the idea that you need fake drama to be popular on television in every instance. In particular when the network is automotive related. I get why it's done when the shows are on Discovery or TLC. Those networks are trying to have a broad appeal. The show before or after yours could have nothing to do with automotive's, so the fake drama will keep those who don't care about the subject tuned in to watch the personality train wreck. But, Velocity is an automotive channel. They are trying to build an audience who understand and appreciate the subject matter - there is no need for the fake drama!
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Then why did they make up the story about the cuda that was buried for there first show?
 
I like graveyard cars. I think the show has gotten better this year. I think Mark saw all the complaints about too much drama and cut back on it and is showing more of the Mopar work being done. If you don't like it good luck finding another show dedicated to restoring mopars.
 
ccrhost said:
I don't support the idea that you need fake drama to be popular on television in every instance. In particular when the network is automotive related. I get why it's done when the shows are on Discovery or TLC. Those networks are trying to have a broad appeal. The show before or after yours could have nothing to do with automotive's, so the fake drama will keep those who don't care about the subject tuned in to watch the personality train wreck. But, Velocity is an automotive channel. They are trying to build an audience who understand and appreciate the subject matter - there is no need for the fake drama!
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Sorry, but you should probably worry about your own show. Talking down other automobile related shows doesn't look good on you. And I like you. And that's not going to make me watch your show/shows anymore. All the shenanigans aside,I would much rather watch a show that truly knows how to build a Mopar,versus a show that builds a Mopar to Chevy specs. Let alone a car show building a Delorean.
 
Johnny Dart said:
Sorry, but you should probably worry about your own show. Talking down other automobile related shows doesn't look good on you. And I like you. And that's not going to make me watch your show/shows anymore. All the shenanigans aside,I would much rather watch a show that truly knows how to build a Mopar,versus a show that builds a Mopar to Chevy specs. Let alone a car show building a Delorean.
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Amen brother!!!!!!!!!x2
 
gtmopar said:
Amen brother!!!!!!!!!x2
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if u had the $ and that much help along w/ a shop like that, u could do the same thing,and w/o all the stupidity that those shows put out. it`s all put on anyway.:finga:
 
Johnny Dart said:
Sorry, but you should probably worry about your own show. Talking down other automobile related shows doesn't look good on you. And I like you. And that's not going to make me watch your show/shows anymore. All the shenanigans aside,I would much rather watch a show that truly knows how to build a Mopar,versus a show that builds a Mopar to Chevy specs. Let alone a car show building a Delorean.
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Johnny, I was attempting to explain to those who complained earlier, why reality shows rely on fake drama. While I don't like the style, it was not a knock against the people on the show. It's a formula that crosses over from genre to genre, regardless of it being an automotive show. In my other post, I stated "I wish them well", which I sincerely do. I think having more car shows on air is better for everyone. The format of a show is usually a decision by a network executive not the creator/producer of an individual show. The exec's tell the producer how it's going to be made and look, so it will flow with other shows on the network. My point was that we all know it's not necessary to get viewers like us to watch. Hopefully, they can express that to executives who agree... But, then again, every speciality network executive wants the next "Honey BooBoo" so they examine the structure of that series to determin what makes it work. They then try to apply the formula to more shows. Sometimes it works, other times it doesn't. "Television is the highest form of immitation". It's all an on-going experiment, really. I hope that clears things up a little. As part of this community, I hope my occasional opinions are accepted and seen as as a car guy like others here - rather than an opportunity to attack my company and production... BTW, it was a Bricklin! :D

Cheers,
 
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