Hurst Super Shifter

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67_Slimer

67_Slimer

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I currently have a console with a Hurst factory squiggly shifter in my 67 dart. I'm looking into removing the console and putting a Hurst Super Shifter with the reverse lockout in its place. I have a few concerns. First of all , if it states that it's an A body shifter , do they fit properly as far as the linkage it comes with , same size hole in the floor etc. Next would be height as far as sitting in the seat and having to lean down to make shifts. Last I heard that 1st and 33rd come close to the dash? PLease let me know if you have any experience with this shifter good or bad. Also if there are proper part numbers? Thank you for your time!!
 
I have a super shifter III in my Duster, it bolted up right where the stock one was, and the stock linkage also worked.
There is no way 1st and 3rd are close to the dash.
I even dilled an extra hole in my stock handle, and used it on the shifter.
 
sireland67 said:
I have a super shifter III in my Duster, it bolted up right where the stock one was, and the stock linkage also worked.
There is no way 1st and 3rd are close to the dash.
I even dilled an extra hole in my stock handle, and used it on the shifter.
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That's great!! What's the differences between The SS I , II or III? and structural differences? Also , any pictures of your setup? Thank you so much!!
 
My SSIII has the red handle for reverse lock-out.
They are all based on the standard Hurst shifter, so I believe it is just options, same basic shifter.
 
sireland67 said:
My SSIII has the red handle for reverse lock-out.
They are all based on the standard Hurst shifter, so I believe it is just options, same basic shifter.
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Awesome thank you!! Do you have any pics you can post? Also , if I use the short handle that comes with the shifter , would I have to reach down for the handle?
 
67_Slimer said:
Awesome thank you!! Do you have any pics you can post? Also , if I use the short handle that comes with the shifter , would I have to reach down for the handle?
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lol that depends on how long your arms are.

I never used the SSIII shift rods. I just use the stock shift rods and I never found the stock shift rods to be any less shiftable than the SSIII shift rods.

IMHO, those SSIII shifters are the best H pattern shifter out there. I still prefer a Hurst Ram Rod but those things are pretty rare and damned expensive.

I never liked reaching for the shifter. Especially third gear. I've driven cars that were so uncomfortable I could barely power shift them. It was no wonder the car owners couldn't shift them. Driver comfort is number one.

I like my handle longer with a nice bend backwards. I've never found that the length of the shift handle or its various contortions and bends ever made a slower shift than a short, straight handle. Speed comes from repetition and its not in your right hand. It's the left leg that makes a fast shift.
 
67_Slimer said:
Awesome thank you!! Do you have any pics you can post? Also , if I use the short handle that comes with the shifter , would I have to reach down for the handle?
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I could not find a pic, but the short handle that came with the shifter is way to short for me, that is why I used the stock one.
 
Newbomb Turk said:
lol that depends on how long your arms are.

I never used the SSIII shift rods. I just use the stock shift rods and I never found the stock shift rods to be any less shiftable than the SSIII shift rods.

IMHO, those SSIII shifters are the best H pattern shifter out there. I still prefer a Hurst Ram Rod but those things are pretty rare and damned expensive.

I never liked reaching for the shifter. Especially third gear. I've driven cars that were so uncomfortable I could barely power shift them. It was no wonder the car owners couldn't shift them. Driver comfort is number one.

I like my handle longer with a nice bend backwards. I've never found that the length of the shift handle or its various contortions and bends ever made a slower shift than a short, straight handle. Speed comes from repetition and its not in your right hand. It's the left leg that makes a fast shift.
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Is a RAMROD streetable , downshifting etc. with an 833?
 
I believe the original super shifter is the one without reverse lockout. To engage reverse, you had to push down on the handle. This did not meet NHRA rules for certain classes and Hurst made and sold a separate lockout for the shifter.
 
ch1ll said:
I believe the original super shifter is the one without reverse lockout. To engage reverse, you had to push down on the handle. This did not meet NHRA rules for certain classes and Hurst made and sold a separate lockout for the shifter.
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Exactly!! The handle seems really short and like I would have to lean down to grab it. Not sure what I want to do.
 
when i installed super shifter in my duster, i made a plate to raise the shifter up. i used 1/2 inch aluminum plate, i raised it up bout three inches, trimmed hole in floor to get it in. just food for thought
 
The whole deal with the original super shifter was to get the rod angles in line with the tranny and the main shafts.
This would have less deflection in the shift arms and linkage thus resulting in an easier faster shift.

To get there they raised the original Super shifter up in position as they did Ram rods and V gates.

(you have to butcher your tunnel to have the real deal)

The super shifter will bolt onto the original or Hurst mount and use the original or Hurst linkage but it is no longer

A Super Shifter.
 
This is a Hurst super shifter 1 that I purchased in the late 70's. Yes it's a little bit of a reach but with the shorter shifts and short handle it makes the shifting quicker. I like it.

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dowboy1970 said:
The whole deal with the original super shifter was to get the rod angles in line with the tranny and the main shafts.
This would have less deflection in the shift arms and linkage thus resulting in an easier faster shift.

To get there they raised the original Super shifter up in position as they did Ram rods and V gates.

(you have to butcher your tunnel to have the real deal)

The super shifter will bolt onto the original or Hurst mount and use the original or Hurst linkage but it is no longer

A Super Shifter.
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I have a Ram Rod and I didn’t butcher anything.

The straight rods are a PITA to fit and I noticed zero shifting benefit from the straight rods.
 
Newbomb Turk said:
I have a Ram Rod and I didn’t butcher anything.

The straight rods are a PITA to fit and I noticed zero shifting benefit from the straight rods.
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That might be so, I have not installed one in a A body ,
I know the V-Gate sits higher and can cause problems,

Did your Ram Rod have straight linkage?
 
dowboy1970 said:
That might be so, I have not installed one in a A body ,
I know the V-Gate sits higher and can cause problems,

Did your Ram Rod have straight linkage?
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The Vgate is HUGE and I couldn’t think of a way to make one fit without cutting the car up so I held out until I found a Ram Rod here on FABO. The RR is very close in size to a Super Shifter so it fits in the OE hole in the tunnel (but it’s very close though) and I changed the mount to move the shifter up further in the hole.

That made it easier to get the shift rods almost straight. Not quite straight but pretty close.

BTW the RR replaced a Super Shifter III. IMO the best inline and the best H pattern shifters.
 
I can see from pics on the net that the RR needed moved forward for the A body cars and that would be very do able and not

affect the 1-4 shift arms,

Nobody needs a straight arm reverse rod.
 
For the Opps ,

What would be wrong with a fine tuned H pattern Comp + shifter with shift stops and you can get any length stick you like?

The original A shifter was off set, I will see if I have a pic.
 
Bennoel 10 said:
This is a Hurst super shifter 1 that I purchased in the late 70's. Yes it's a little bit of a reach but with the shorter shifts and short handle it makes the shifting quicker. I like it.

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Thanks for the pics! I can see it sits a lot lower , my exact worries. I'm wondering if I could use a slightly longer straight hurst handle with the setup.
 
dowboy1970 said:
For the Opps ,

What would be wrong with a fine tuned H pattern Comp + shifter with shift stops and you can get any length stick you like?

The original A shifter was off set, I will see if I have a pic.
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This^^^ all a Super shifter gives you is a reverse lock out and a shorter stick, resulting in shorter throws. Had one many years ago and it's still an H pattern shifter. At least it was back then. No advantage over a nicely tuned Super Comp with the proper stick.
 
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