Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries & 2947 cnties in US

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gdrill said:
And if you smoke or drink, don't go to the hospital either.....wow.

Edit: I see someone beat me to the point.
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Is there a vaccine you can get before you start drinking or smoking to prevent you from doing those things?
 
Because you are stuck in your point and nothing will change your mind. NO, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS NO VACCINE FOR THEM. But they can both kill you. Smoking probably has more hospital beds filled than anything else on earth including SarsCoVII. Some of us don't want the shot you call a vaccine. Let us die our own way and you die yours. Obviously you didn't read the opening post either. You are not cured and you are not safe because of your jab.

I also think there is a fairly high rate of regret about getting shot as well.
 
gdrill said:
Because you are stuck in your point and nothing will change your mind. NO, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS NO VACCINE FOR THEM. But they can both kill you. Smoking probably has more hospital beds filled than anything else on earth including SarsCoVII. Some of us don't want the shot you call a vaccine. Let us die our own way and you die yours. Obviously you didn't read the opening post either. You are not cured and you are not safe because of your jab.

I also think there is a fairly high rate of regret about getting shot as well.
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I did read the opening post and it deteriorate from there and yes I do believe the vaccine provides a certain amount of protection. As you said you will not change my mind and I won't change yours.
 
SLOPAR72 said:
And then what? If you think that would "fix" your so called "problem" get set for a disappointment.... Jab away all you want. 1,2,or 10 jabs of your Brew in an needle and number 11 will be right around the corner. Just ask that at the helm right now. Luckily in my State we are getting rid of the "the world is gonna end mindset leader" and look forward to the change.

Don't forget about the women since you are on that mindset.... What are you gonna offer them? Asking for a friend....

JW
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  1. IT WAS A JOKE!!!! HAVE YOU NO SENSE OF HUMOR. DID YOU REALLY THINK I WAS SERIOUS???
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mbaird said:
WTF ? Did you just have a siezure at the keyboard ? Can you restructure that so it means something ?

Did harrisonm joke trigger you ?
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At least you figured out it was a joke.
 
Unvaccinated COVID-19 hospitalizations cost billions of dollars - Peterson-KFF Health System Tracker
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Article after article by medical professionals, health departments in state after state will tell you what is obvious
I defy anyone to come up with actual credible factual information that provides there are more vaccinated people admitted to hospital care for Covid than the unvaccinated
Why anyone would continue to deny medical proof with unsubstantiated politically biased articles is beyond belief
If you do not wish to be vaccinated that is your choice as an American.
I could link a hundred articles from medical facilities, doctors many from org sites
You cannot deny the truth of how contagious and how serious Covid can be.
 
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ptbill said:
Again, just my opinion and I don't know how many of the above conditions are filling our er rooms if they could get a shot to help prevent it.
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I have many friends who are doctors, nurses admins in the medical industry. Here is a little secret. Covid patients aren't filling ER rooms. There is no shortage of beds. Albany Med runs at 92% year round, even before covid. You know what happened when they cleared floors to make room for covid patients spring 2020, they had a lot of empty beds, even after shipping down state people upstate.

And you know how they created those extra floors? By shutting down things like substance abuse floors, etc. Guess what skyrocketed during the lockdowns? You guessed it, substance abuse, mental health and suicide.

People go to the ER for all kinds of things, as they always have, except more now...Why? Because many doctors, including mine, refuse to treat patients who display covid symptoms (upset stomach, diarreah, rash, sneeze, cough, temp, sore throat, runny nose, etc) and they get sent to urgent care and ER)
 
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Hot Metal said:
ok so one last shot at this, not here to try and convince just give you facts, as I'm reading your comments and all those that believe convid exists and its not just the flu which has and is with us and has been for decades and has miraculously disappeared only now to come back apparently to cover the reactions to the shots apart from other things.

Let me ask you 1 question, just one and I'm done..... it is a fact that the CDC has pulled the PCR test because its totally defunct, useless and cannot test for any disease/virus or anything but can only prove that we are all human, our UK govt. has said so in so many words as well as Portugal banned its use months ago and many proper scientific studies show the same let alone Mullis who invented it saying so many times before he all of a sudden died of a heart attack, he was a threat to their scam.

In the light of those facts which are check able, and knowing that it was exactly that which they used at the very beginning of all this farce to prove their "cases" of convid and the fact that it existed at all what does that say to those of you who believe...anything? can any of you comprehend what I've just said seriously. There's a saying that goes, if you tell a lie big enough often enough it becomes the truth.
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I agree with you but the US is still using PCR as the gold standard. Rapid testing is still seen as 2nd rate.
 
Steve welder said:
Unvaccinated COVID-19 hospitalizations cost billions of dollars - Peterson-KFF Health System Tracker
Health Details

Article after article by medical professionals, health departments in state after state will tell you what is obvious
I defy anyone to come up with actual credible factual information that provides there are more vaccinated people admitted to hospital care for Covid than the unvaccinated
Why anyone would continue to deny medical proof with unsubstantiated politically biased articles is beyond belief
If you do not wish to be vaccinated that is your choice as an American.
I could link a hundred articles from medical facilities, doctors many from org sites
You cannot deny the truth of how contagious and how serious Covid can be.
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Only some have an actual choice

Here's what you wanted

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roccodart440 said:
I agree with you but the US is still using PCR as the gold standard. Rapid testing is still seen as 2nd rate.
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Yes they are, so stop getting tested and it all goes away doesn't it, NO TESTS=NO CASES=NO CONVID. Kids here in the UK use the lateral flow joke tests to bunk off school, they use bananas/oranges for the tests and know they'll be + so they get 10-14 days off school, and you adults are still falling for it all line/sinker.
 
Hot Metal said:
Yes they are, so stop getting tested and it all goes away doesn't it, NO TESTS=NO CASES=NO CONVID. Kids here in the UK use the lateral flow joke tests to bunk off school, they use bananas/oranges for the tests and know they'll be + so they get 10-14 days off school, and you adults are still falling for it all line/sinker.
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100%. I've said since the beginning, that if you increase testing (given that 45% are asymptomatic and 80% require no medical interventions), you will see a rise in case numbers.

Unfortunately, now with the NYS mandate, the Biden/OSHA mandate, etc, people such as myself have to either test weekly, or get the jab. Now, I've had covid and have been directly exposed to 75 people in close proximity that have tested positive. I've tested negative each time. Still, only testing the unvaxxed seems like poor data, to say the least
 
roccodart440 said:
100%. I've said since the beginning, that if you increase testing (given that 45% are asymptomatic and 80% require no medical interventions), you will see a rise in case numbers.

Unfortunately, now with the NYS mandate, the Biden/OSHA mandate, etc, people such as myself have to either test weekly, or get the jab. Now, I've had covid and have been directly exposed to 75 people in close proximity that have tested positive. I've tested negative each time. Still, only testing the unvaxxed seems like poor data, to say the least
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You seem to get it but your still talking the narrative and believe in convid as you say you've had it, ok well thats up to you if you want to believe that, but there is NO such thing as "asymptomatic", if your healthy your just that, therefore you are not a carrier of anything unless you have a fake test and then your deemed to be a diseased ridden healthy person, that is total utter crap and has been proved scientifically many to be just that, drop the narrative completely and think critically.
That was a ploy in their worldwide script to lock everyone down and destroy small/medium businesses making you reliant on the gov., once that happens they got you by the B****.
Watch those links I put up from Amandha, she tells it like it is, I'm not going to write it here. Also you don't have to have the tests and the clotshot, there are forms online you print and give to your employer which makes them personally liable for your health in court for $$$$$$ in the event anything happens to you from being coerced to take medical interventions which go against the Nuremberg Code, your constitution and human rights, they won't sign them in which case you do not have to comply, that goes for any fines as well, a fine is an offer of a contract, it takes 2 to make that legal, get it, they are all unlawful. A mandate is not a law.
 
Hot Metal said:
You seem to get it but your still talking the narrative and believe in convid as you say you've had it, ok well thats up to you if you want to believe that, but there is NO such thing as "asymptomatic", if your healthy your just that, therefore you are not a carrier of anything unless you have a fake test and then your deemed to be a diseased ridden healthy person, that is total utter crap and has been proved scientifically many to be just that, drop the narrative completely and think critically.
That was a ploy in their worldwide script to lock everyone down and destroy small/medium businesses making you reliant on the gov., once that happens they got you by the B****.
Watch those links I put up from Amandha, she tells it like it is, I'm not going to write it here. Also you don't have to have the tests and the clotshot, there are forms online you print and give to your employer which makes them personally liable for your health in court for $$$$$$ in the event anything happens to you from being coerced to take medical interventions which go against the Nuremberg Code, your constitution and human rights, they won't sign them in which case you do not have to comply, that goes for any fines as well, a fine is an offer of a contract, it takes 2 to make that legal, get it, they are all unlawful. A mandate is not a law.
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I understand what you're saying.

My covid case involved me being achy and having a low grade fever for 2 days, losing all taste and smell for about 2 weeks, and some light sensitivity and headaches for 2 days.

Now, i've never had anything cause me to lose sense of taste and smell, so do I believe SARS-COV2 exists, yes, along with SARS-COV and all coronaviruses.

Do I believe in a plot, false narrative, testing issues, etc? Yes...and more.
 
roccodart440 said:
I understand what you're saying.

My covid case involved me being achy and having a low grade fever for 2 days, losing all taste and smell for about 2 weeks, and some light sensitivity and headaches for 2 days.

Now, i've never had anything cause me to lose sense of taste and smell, so do I believe SARS-COV2 exists, yes, along with SARS-COV and all coronaviruses.

Do I believe in a plot, false narrative, testing issues, etc? Yes...and more.
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ok fair enough, like I said I'm just here trying to give some solid facts. One of those is that there has been over a 115 freedom of information requests made worldwide to 20 different countries asking for the health authorities we trust in?..£$%^&.. to confirm the existence of the sars-cov2 virus, It has never been properly isolated using kotches postulates the gold std of virology in purification of virus's in a lab and not 1 of those agencies can prove the existence of it FACT.
To back that up there was a case in Alberta Canada recently of a guy who went to court for a fine he got for an illegal gathering. He completely destroyed the health authority and won the case because he asked them to prove the existance of SC2 which was the basis on which they gave the fine and everything else they do, they obviously couldn't and ALL the convid restrictions were lifted cos of that 1 court case, you won't find that on MSM....knowledge is power if you know where to look for it, its all there and more and factual, it completely destroys the lies. Therefore it doesn't exist and never has existed so what did you have then?.....the flu.
Any symptom you get whether you've had it before or not is the body itself detoxing waste build up from within and the symptoms are actually the body healing itself not some disease or illness that a doctor will just suppress with drugs so you think your cured.
A virus is made inside the body to get rid of waste not some external thing that is contagious, the myth is destroyed, and that is what a cold/flu is which have exactly all the same symptoms as you had.
 
Reuters Fact Check has previously debunked claims that the virus does not exists or has not been isolated here and here .

VERDICT
False. Alberta did not drop COVID-19 restrictions due to a rejected subpoena that asked for proof the virus had been isolated. The province still has some COVID-19 restrictions in place. The virus has been isolated and exists.

This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our fact-checking work  here  .         

Fact Check-Alberta court case not linked to lifting of COVID-19 restrictions
 
Hot Metal said:
ok fair enough, like I said I'm just here trying to give some solid facts. One of those is that there has been over a 115 freedom of information requests made worldwide to 20 different countries asking for the health authorities we trust in?..£$%^&.. to confirm the existence of the sars-cov2 virus, It has never been properly isolated using kotches postulates the gold std of virology in purification of virus's in a lab and not 1 of those agencies can prove the existence of it FACT.
To back that up there was a case in Alberta Canada recently of a guy who went to court for a fine he got for an illegal gathering. He completely destroyed the health authority and won the case because he asked them to prove the existance of SC2 which was the basis on which they gave the fine and everything else they do, they obviously couldn't and ALL the convid restrictions were lifted cos of that 1 court case, you won't find that on MSM....knowledge is power if you know where to look for it, its all there and more and factual, it completely destroys the lies. Therefore it doesn't exist and never has existed so what did you have then?.....the flu.
Any symptom you get whether you've had it before or not is the body itself detoxing waste build up from within and the symptoms are actually the body healing itself not some disease or illness that a doctor will just suppress with drugs so you think your cured.
A virus is made inside the body to get rid of waste not some external thing that is contagious, the myth is destroyed, and that is what a cold/flu is which have exactly all the same symptoms as you had.
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Familiar w/ the Canadian Case. Guys name was Mark, I think. Also, Big Wig Prosecutors from the Capitol were present....over a fine? YEAH RIGHT
 
My local cesspool (Richmond, VA.) is now backstepping on their Vaccine mandates for the City school system. Teachers are walking away. I hope it starts the trend. Let this thing play out and move on. It has been nothing but an annoying barking dog coming up on 2 years now.....

JW
 
Hot Metal said:
ok fair enough, like I said I'm just here trying to give some solid facts. One of those is that there has been over a 115 freedom of information requests made worldwide to 20 different countries asking for the health authorities we trust in?..£$%^&.. to confirm the existence of the sars-cov2 virus, It has never been properly isolated using kotches postulates the gold std of virology in purification of virus's in a lab and not 1 of those agencies can prove the existence of it FACT.
To back that up there was a case in Alberta Canada recently of a guy who went to court for a fine he got for an illegal gathering. He completely destroyed the health authority and won the case because he asked them to prove the existance of SC2 which was the basis on which they gave the fine and everything else they do, they obviously couldn't and ALL the convid restrictions were lifted cos of that 1 court case, you won't find that on MSM....knowledge is power if you know where to look for it, its all there and more and factual, it completely destroys the lies. Therefore it doesn't exist and never has existed so what did you have then?.....the flu.
Any symptom you get whether you've had it before or not is the body itself detoxing waste build up from within and the symptoms are actually the body healing itself not some disease or illness that a doctor will just suppress with drugs so you think your cured.
A virus is made inside the body to get rid of waste not some external thing that is contagious, the myth is destroyed, and that is what a cold/flu is which have exactly all the same symptoms as you had.
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I am familiar with that case.

Whether or not it is SARS-COV2 or something else, there is definitely a new illness out there. My mother had it and it was no traditional flu. I do however believe it should be treated no different than we treat the flu.
 
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