Is Painless wire harness really painless ?

[273]

My wire harness is in good shape never been butchered but is 47 years old. Anybody use the Painless Wire harness it seem like it just an generic kit for mopars any good or problems installing or some other product better or stick with stock?

 

[Revhendo]

Abodyjoe has a real good thread/article on wiring an A body using an American Autowire kit. Ron Francis has a kit that they tailor to your car and he posts on here from time to time. I use the Autowire kits all the time and have used some Francis accessories, but not his harnesses.

 

[805moparkid]

i just used the 14 circuit in a 46 dodge...

its pretty straight forward as long as you have the stock mopar diagram to use as well...

also you'll have to do all the wiring for the VR system as they have it setup for a GM one wire alt...

 

[HotLines]

I've had a Ron Francis wiring kit in my 64 Signet since 1989 and never a problem, plus I've got all those new fuses so I don't have to search around for those old ones..

BTW, the wiring kit was made for my car and the instruction sheets were perfect and always had good customer service..

 

[67Dart273]

Personally I think Painless is way overpriced, and too "GM -- ey"

I bought a "used" Painless that would have cost around 450, that someone had started to use, cut some of the inst. panel wires. I used it in my 67, it was missing all the extra hardware (GM, anyhow.) I paid 100 for it off Craigslist, and basically got a nice big fuse panel and color coded wires.

One thing I do NOT care for about (I think EZ) as well as Painless is the wire labeling. Color coding and numbering is FINE, but they insist on labeling the function (ignition, etc) so if you want to use a circuit for "something else" (I don't have power windows, the harness DOES) then whatever you use that for wrongly says "power windows"

I wish I'd kept track------someone on here posted a source for connector terminals, so with those, some good headlight connectors, and a decent generic harness you should be able to do just as well.

Also, in mine, I used a Voyager relay panel for ignition, headlights, pump, etc, and Bussmann makes some nice, similar ones

Voyager:

http://image.fbt.se/global/images/i...tp/195/bil/lgnr/5374(1).jpg&width=370&height=

Buss/ Bussmann fuse and relay panels. You can configure these a lot of different ways, but they are "out of" my budget

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4786/p1010377b.jpg

http://www.concept-customs.com/web_images/Electrical_Products/Fuse Panels.jpg

You'll have to Google and find Bussmann's catalogues, they make one HECK of a lot of stuff, these relay/ fuse panels come "MT" and you can configure them a lot of ways

 

[mopardude318]

i dont think any kit from any manufacturer is "painless". they all are a pain in the ***.

 

[mopar1970dart]

Currently Installing Painless in my 1970 Swinger after a wire from the Ammeter gauge fried and melted the harness together, a real mess.
I find that painless is not Painless. Its to generic and they should supply more detailed install manuals for different cars. About 80 % complete.
Would not recommend Painless for this car.