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beck

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Hi, posted some picks of my dizzy,if you can zoom in there is white plastic shavings in the center where the spring clip is.I and getting ready to pull it out to add fbo plate. How would shavings get in there with the rotor on,and the rotor is white?

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I'm heading over in a little while to take another look, I will follow up later.
 
The shavings are from the rotor vibrating for some reason. I had this from a cheap loose junk rotor. Start using better tune up parts. If you can pull the rotor off and on easy throw it in the trash. Should be real snug.
 
Along with check shaft play, any looseness of advance mechanisms, and examine rotor/ cap tower contacts for strike damage.
 
Ok, I might have put the cart before the horse,it looks like the felt not shavings.I had to double check the timing before I pulled the distributor, seems to run ok at 20 base and as soon I gave it some gas,it jumped to 50 - 52.I believe it is locked.I will work on it tomorrow .keep you posted. Thanks to all
 
Ok,I pulled distributor and took it apart, an to my surprise it is a mp distributor with a different mechanical advance set up.I do not know what to do.Also does the coil for magnetic pickup up just slide off!

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Ok, I might have put the cart before the horse,it looks like the felt not shavings.I had to double check the timing before I pulled the distributor, seems to run ok at 20 base and as soon I gave it some gas,it jumped to 50 - 52.I believe it is locked.I will work on it tomorrow .keep you posted. Thanks to all
??? If the timing moved from initial, it is not locked
 
At some point MP had Mallory make the distributors instead of using real Chrysler built distributors. I'm not sure why, but maybe just due to the limited volume. So if there is a Green tag with a P-part number on it, that's what yours is. Or it was made even more recently.

The MP distributors with Mallory internals had a long looped spring on one side.
Yours has two primary springs, and they look like light ones. Because of that and the geometry of the weight system it will advance super fast.

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Ok, I might have put the cart before the horse,it looks like the felt not shavings.I had to double check the timing before I pulled the distributor, seems to run ok at 20 base and as soon I gave it some gas,it jumped to 50 - 52.I believe it is locked.I will work on it tomorrow .keep you posted. Thanks to all
The felt wad is for lubrication. Put a drop or four of oil on it and it drops oil onto the distributor governor to lubricate it.
 
We can see this is on a LA engine but other than that, I can only guess you want a performance curve on a somewhat stock engine.

In which case you're going to haveto monkey around with the settings and springs.
Someone may still have the MP spring kit, or at least a Mallory YH/YT spring kit.

In my experience, the geometry is such that its difficult to get the factory MP curve.
Also there are two tricks to working with this advance mechanism.
1. Changing the advance allowed (supposedly the advance limit adjustment) changes the tension on the primary spring(s).
2a. The tension alone can be adjusted by bending the perches.
2b. When a long looped secondary spring is used, the perch effects the degrees out before the secondary spring slows the advance.

Why is tension important?
Its the force holding the weight from moving out.
The less tension, the lower the rpm at which the weights move out.

So Joe hot rodder trusts the info from Mallory and reduces the allowable advance.
In doing so, he unwittingly causes the timing advance to begin at say 500 rpm instead of 800 rpm.

You can mess around with some springs, and even buy some high rate springs from McMaster Carr, and bend the loops. etc. Eventually you can get an OK curve, especially if your not running to high rpm (5500 or more).

Here's one post with a bit more detail

Kits came with these plus the some shown in the other photo (like the purple)
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P = Primary spring. Tension on this spring determines the rpm advance starts. Rate of the spring dictates how quick the advance is above idle rpm.
S = Secondary Spring. This is loose at idle. As the weights move out, the spring tension will slow the advance. This should happen between 1600 and 2000 rpm.
A = Adjusters. Loosen these screws to adjust the limit of advance but also change the spring tension as explained above. Then tighten the screws. The amount of advance shown in the photo can be estimated from the space visible in the slots. The kits came with plastic keys, but you can measure the distance. Someone posted a table. Or better - go measure using a timing light and tach. That's really the way to learn what the changes do.

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I didn't label the sheet metal tabs. Bend those out for more tension. Don't go crazy. Obviously don't want to bend them in and out 20 times.

If the cam has a bunch of duration, maybe start with more intial and work for a compromise single stage curve rather than a two stage curve.
 
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Thanks for info,,as per your pic with the lables, how do you tell the difference between the primary and the secondary? Is just by the springs?I completely understand what you mean,but I have never touched this dizzy before and what if the person before me did it backwards. I also did purchased a fbo plate with the springs,so can I use them.I am just looking to cruise and with occasional throttle stomps, and car shows.
 
Sec springs are in the bottom of the photo. They fit "loose" allowing the weaker spring to control the first part of the curve, then as the thing winds up, the added force moves the larger spring further on out
 
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