cudaFS
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Hello, will a throttle body work with the p451008 4bbl intake? I want to replace the keg and use it on a 94, 5.9 magnum
Thanks for the info ProfessorNo pic?
I find nothing on a Mopar P451008 manifold- do you mean the P4510018? It's for carbed applications.
Do you want to use the factory throttle body or an aftermarket 4bbl. throttle body?
The factory one will require an adapter plate, and you will still have to drill the manifold and weld in bungs for the injectors and fuel rails.
If you're looking to use the factory stuff, look for the P5410016 manifold- everything bolts up.
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I'm still not sure about the efi's out there, you see so many used ones for sale, makes me wonder how well they actually run. lots of complaints and technical problems, all brandsThe amount of work to use that manifold with the factory efi will not be worth it. Buy the efi edlebrock rpm from Hughes engines and it’s a direct swap.
That’s a good intake if you can find one.No pic?
I find nothing on a Mopar P451008 manifold- do you mean the P4510018? It's for carbed applications.
Do you want to use the factory throttle body or an aftermarket 4bbl. throttle body?
The factory one will require an adapter plate, and you will still have to drill the manifold and weld in bungs for the injectors and fuel rails.
If you're looking to use the factory stuff, look for the P5410016 manifold- everything bolts up.
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With the factory magnum cam and springs there will be little to no gain changing intakes from the beer barrel to really anything. It’s a pretty good match for what the magnums were designed to do. Now, if you upgrade the cam and springs there is lots to be had.I'm still not sure about the efi's out there, you see so many used ones for sale, makes me wonder how well they actually run. lots of complaints and technical problems, all brands
I'm pretty sure Crosswind was making clones a while back, think I remember seeing a couple.That’s a good intake if you can find one.
But damn they’ve gotten out of control on price.
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if the hughes is used with the factory ecu thats a different story, the self learning efi set ups are the ones I'm not convinced on yetI'm still not sure about the efi's out there, you see so many used ones for sale, makes me wonder how well they actually run. lots of complaints and technical problems, all brands
Most of those are TBIs, the Magnums use multi-point injection. Different animals.I'm still not sure about the efi's out there, you see so many used ones for sale, makes me wonder how well they actually run. lots of complaints and technical problems, all brands
if the hughes is used with the factory ecu thats a different story, the self learning efi set ups are the ones I'm not convinced on yet
I have a 209 duration cam I'm going to put in it agree on the factory cam, although it works well in 4 low, and surprisingly up to 60 mph if you floor it and keep your foot in itWith the factory magnum cam and springs there will be little to no gain changing intakes from the beer barrel to really anything. It’s a pretty good match for what the magnums were designed to do. Now, if you upgrade the cam and springs there is lots to be had.
I want it to run more efficiently ve wise, and have a little more pep 0-60, while keeping my obd1Ok tell us what you’re trying to do.
got ya, so the throttle body on the keg is for air intakeMost of those are TBIs, the Magnums use multi-point injection. Different animals.
I want it to run more efficiently ve wise, and have a little more pep 0-60, while keeping my obd1
VE means volumetric efficiency obd swap is too much of a can of worms for me, I'll throw in a better cam and call it good“More efficiently ve wise”
Not even sure what that means.
You are not going to get any more efficiency with anything other than the factory efi. I like the obd2 better than obd1 but only for its tuneability. For a little more grunt 0-60 a small cam and springs and the rpm Hughes intake and you’ll be there.
I’m all too familiar with what VE means. What I didn’t understand is your statement about “wanting to run more efficiently VE wise”.VE means volumetric efficiency obd swap is too much of a can of worms for me, I'll throw in a better cam and call it good
I agree...Those manifolds are also total pieces of casting nightmare *****.The amount of work to use that manifold with the factory efi will not be worth it. Buy the efi edlebrock rpm from Hughes engines and it’s a direct swap.
I just bought a Magnum crate engine (300hp) from a dyno shop local to me. Going from a stock cam to a small comp (212/218 .480 114) and switching from an M1 dual plane to an RPM Air gap, the thing picked up 65hp and lost no torque anywhere.I agree...Those manifolds are also total pieces of casting nightmare *****.
The port windows are a mess all of them are too low.
Now the Hughes you post a link to, that's a nice piece