LD 340

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For clearance using a thermoquad carburetor.
No, read on below.
That's a great suggestion. Even a small 1/2" spacer will have the same effect.
No, read on below.
You are right, I misspoke thinking Holley 3 barrel and saying thermoquad.
There is a caveat to this all. Read below.
a small notch is generally used as a tuning aid or to clear 2ndary butterflies.
Spacer or notch. If notch, no.
cutting down the divider significantly is more for racing, i'm guessing it was in response to having to run a dual plane manifold in a specific class.
Junkyard hero, Bingo!!!!!!

Not all LD-340’s came with the notch. Mine didn’t. (Ch1ll)
Moving on…

The MP engines bible suggests cutting the plenum divider down to a (IIRC) 3/8ths height with rounded edges and front to back to more or less line up with the forward edge - again, IIRC.

This was the “Legal Cheat” on class racing that demanded a dual plane be used. Opening up the plenum as large as described basically turns the intake into a single plane intake. But that’s basically since the intake still has uneven length runners that travel twisted paths. This retains some of the dual plane characteristics.

If you put a spacer on an uncut intake, do note that the depth of the plenum is more or less what is needed to be matched in order to - SORT OF - recreate the missing wall.

MoPar suggests making use of a cam with .600 or greater. Here, you will have to read between the lines some and go back in history to see just exactly what a .600+ lift cam is in duration wise. I’ll cut the homework for you and just say, it’s a big *** cam. A cam your going to RACE with. It will be north of [email protected]. The MoPar cam, the 312 duration, .590 lift cam is [email protected] as they say to do the math. IDGAF what anybody else comes up with, I’m just sticking to the book and what they say to do to convert. Carrying on….

The next MP cam is 324/.620. That would be [email protected] duration.
There are a scant few who would run this in the street while actually taking full advantage of the cams power engine and chassis wise. The next MP cams are solid rollers.

I did the divider mod and it was worth it even on a small cam 318 w/low compression. I also did the TQ opening mod. This was also worth it. There wasn’t a lack or notable/noticeable torque loss even in the 318 I had. It certainly picked up in the mid range and top end.

If you have this intake already modified or in a condition that won’t command any resale value & you want to use it, absolutely go for it. If you want to make a sleepy looking day two engine that’ll rock some socks off, this is a go!

Further more, port the intake runners as deep as possible the size of the heads window. Follow the TQ mods in the book and by users on here at FABO. I wouldn’t do the “Club” mod on the rods.
Just remember, these LD-340 mods are designed for racing. The effectiveness in the street is limited to the power produced by engine size, rpm, cam size and a proper combo. Do not use this modifications with small cams and low lifts. IMO, a good example would be a cam under 255@050.

I do not know how this mod would work on modern intakes.
I’d do it to a Weiand Action Plus or Stealth. IDK about a RPM. That’s pretty darn good as is and better with runner porting.
IDK about the notch mod.

Anyway, this old DC book mod was the forerunner and a big help to today’s F.A.S.T. Class racing. Those guys that are deep into are knocking down low 10’s and high 9’s on the OEM iron intakes.
Whew!
 
No, read on below.

No, read on below.

There is a caveat to this all. Read below.

Spacer or notch. If notch, no.

Junkyard hero, Bingo!!!!!!

Not all LD-340’s came with the notch. Mine didn’t. (Ch1ll)
Moving on…

The MP engines bible suggests cutting the plenum divider down to a (IIRC) 3/8ths height with rounded edges and front to back to more or less line up with the forward edge - again, IIRC.

This was the “Legal Cheat” on class racing that demanded a dual plane be used. Opening up the plenum as large as described basically turns the intake into a single plane intake. But that’s basically since the intake still has uneven length runners that travel twisted paths. This retains some of the dual plane characteristics.

If you put a spacer on an uncut intake, do note that the depth of the plenum is more or less what is needed to be matched in order to - SORT OF - recreate the missing wall.

MoPar suggests making use of a cam with .600 or greater. Here, you will have to read between the lines some and go back in history to see just exactly what a .600+ lift cam is in duration wise. I’ll cut the homework for you and just say, it’s a big *** cam. A cam your going to RACE with. It will be north of [email protected]. The MoPar cam, the 312 duration, .590 lift cam is [email protected] as they say to do the math. IDGAF what anybody else comes up with, I’m just sticking to the book and what they say to do to convert. Carrying on….

The next MP cam is 324/.620. That would be [email protected] duration.
There are a scant few who would run this in the street while actually taking full advantage of the cams power engine and chassis wise. The next MP cams are solid rollers.

I did the divider mod and it was worth it even on a small cam 318 w/low compression. I also did the TQ opening mod. This was also worth it. There wasn’t a lack or notable/noticeable torque loss even in the 318 I had. It certainly picked up in the mid range and top end.

If you have this intake already modified or in a condition that won’t command any resale value & you want to use it, absolutely go for it. If you want to make a sleepy looking day two engine that’ll rock some socks off, this is a go!

Further more, port the intake runners as deep as possible the size of the heads window. Follow the TQ mods in the book and by users on here at FABO. I wouldn’t do the “Club” mod on the rods.
Just remember, these LD-340 mods are designed for racing. The effectiveness in the street is limited to the power produced by engine size, rpm, cam size and a proper combo. Do not use this modifications with small cams and low lifts. IMO, a good example would be a cam under 255@050.

I do not know how this mod would work on modern intakes.
I’d do it to a Weiand Action Plus or Stealth. IDK about a RPM. That’s pretty darn good as is and better with runner porting.
IDK about the notch mod.

Anyway, this old DC book mod was the forerunner and a big help to today’s F.A.S.T. Class racing. Those guys that are deep into are knocking down low 10’s and high 9’s on the OEM iron intakes.
Whew!
I agree 100% with everything you typed. I just still don't agree with doin it. lol
 
I agree 100% with everything you typed. I just still don't agree with doin it. lol
I get ya. It’s not something I’d recommend out loud at a car meet. I’m just telling you my experience and the positive results even on a low compression 318 with a tiny HFT cam.

It’s true use and mind set process is for racing and that’s what I truly suggest anybody use it for.
 
I get ya. It’s not something I’d recommend out loud at a car meet. I’m just telling you my experience and the positive results even on a low compression 318 with a tiny HFT cam.

It’s true use and mind set process is for racing and that’s what I truly suggest anybody use it for.
oh you hush up, everybody knows that low compression 318's are dogs and only good for boat anchors!
 
Wow, Thanks everyone. Running a 3310 with one inch
Spacer. Seems to work fine. I ask an Edelbrock representative
At the fall nationals if there was a better preforming manifold
Than the LD 340. (Air gap) he kinda reluctantly said NO.
 
Wow, Thanks everyone. Running a 3310 with one inch
Spacer. Seems to work fine. I ask an Edelbrock representative
At the fall nationals if there was a better preforming manifold
Than the LD 340. (Air gap) he kinda reluctantly said NO.

The RPM has better fuel delivery with better runners. Other fellas here called up Edelbrock and asked which was better and if it’s worth swapping the LD-340 out for a RPM.

The answer came back as NO.
I am unaware of any body here that has tried the swap and drag tested it or dyno tested it.
 
There is definitely something to be had.
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This screen shot is from the video link below. Lots of good info from Eric.



I would assume that an LD340 would act similarly.


I’m not sure that’s true. Look at the description of the tests on his sheet.
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Just snagged one for my sbc and I'm not going to cut it after seeing his results. But, I'm going to put a dominator on it after seeing his results of those dyno tests.
 
Remember the Direct Connection Engine Book is a RACER'S MANUAL and that suggestion is for a particular drag racer's build. If that is what you are up to, have at it, but if your are seeking to build a fun to drive street car with low end seat of the pants acceleration, leave the divider alone. Cutting down the divider compromises the dual plane design of the manifold.
 
Did you watch the whole video? Maybe you should
I did watch the whole video, but holy crap I’ve been reading the sheet wrong the whole time. I have no idea how that got past me. Thanks
 
I did watch the whole video, but holy crap I’ve been reading the sheet wrong the whole time. I have no idea how that got past me. Thanks
Sometimes his message is not clear, like divider or no divider or open plenum verses bigger plenum. I had to watch it twice. He rambles on a bit.
 
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