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LED 7" Round Projector Headlights Upgrade!!
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LED 7" Round Projector Headlights Upgrade!!
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LED 7" Round Headlights Upgrade!!
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Dizzydean
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Could you just plug the yellow and red into the running light plugs and use that instead or are all running lights being used?
Thanks for posting! Great article. I have a question. I want to upgrade my headlights but do not want the 'halo' feature. Will these lights wire up similarly? And because they are 150W total, will I need an additional relay or heavier gauge wiring? Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I am more comfortable turning wrenches than wiring things......
2X 7Inch Round 150W Total CREE LED Headlights Hi/Lo 97-17 JEEP JK TJ LJ Wrangler 873031872430 | eBay
Thanks,
Harry
You'll have to splice into the running light harness to have the halo's work, so either way, if you just want the halos only vs the running lights in the grille or bumper, just remove the bulbs from there.
They have the H4 connector so I don't see why they wouldn't work. I am not sure, being an LED system they should draw less current than halogens, I'd suggest first trying them out without running a relay wiring harness, plug into stock harness. If you see flickering going on constantly, then it probably wouldn't hurt to get a relay wiring harness, those run around $20-$30 on eBay, easy to wire up, the relay harness plugs into your stock H4 harness and then you simply run the + wires to the + side of the battery or charge post of the alternator, or starter relay + post, the headlight switch will act as the remote signal to turn the relays on, bridging a clean +12V from the battery straight to the headlights.
Much appreciated! That's good to know. Should make the changeover easier.
I forgot about the current draw being less with LEDs. That will help. FWIW...... I replaced the tail light bulbs in my wife's car with LED bulbs and because they draw less current, the flasher inside the car 'ticks' faster when we use turn signals now, same as if a bulb were burned out (also lowering current draw). Lights still flash at normal speed outside when turn signal is used, though. Her car is a 2013 VW Passat and since I replaced the tail light bulbs, a message flashes on her dash from time to time to 'check tail light'. No issues having car inspected, so we just disregard the warning message.
Thanks,
Harry
Anytime
. They do sell what they call LED flasher relays to replace the stock one. For some reason the stock relay doesn't know what to do with the excess voltage when those LED bulbs are installed, drawing less voltage (like you said), so it freaks out. The LED flashers are designed to handle the voltage properly and make it function like it's supposed to, check it out on eBay, make model year + LED flasher, probably less than $10. Had to do the same in my '01 Ram sport truck when I swapped over to LEDs. Will be doing the same to this Scamp soon.Anytime
Outstanding! I'll check that out. Sounds like just what we need for both our cars here. Thanks for the info!Best regards,
Harry
coyoteduster
Moldy Oldy
Just a quick note, or reminder. You could use the white outer lights as daytime running lights, and the yellow or orange, wired into your positive side of turn signal wires for use as turn signals..
slantsixdan
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Headlamps are like brakes and seatbelts: most of the time you don't need much of 'em until you very suddenly, very urgently do. To keep you out of a crash (or worse), safety equipment like headlamps, turn signals, and so on actually have to work safely—it's not enough that the seller of a Chinese trinket says "It's a headlamp" or "It's a turn signal", and unfortunately we live in a world where we don't get what we don't pay for. See here.
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coyoteduster
Moldy Oldy
WOW, the things we learn on this board.. thanks Dan.. a LOT I didn't know or even realize.. I suppose sometimes we let fancy get in the way of safety unless someone reminds us..
Ok now for the pun.. I feel I have been.. enLIGHTened. I know, BAD joke...
Ok now for the pun.. I feel I have been.. enLIGHTened. I know, BAD joke...
How are these for light focus? I've both heard and read that the LEDs are not focused well and have a lot of light scatter. Did you find some good ones?
JWSpeaker and Trucklight's LED lamps are the only ones I've read about that seem to keep all the light in the acceptable zone. Within the lit area, there are visble patterns. "Hilldweller" did a bunch of semi-scientific comparisons with photos and light meter.
Jeepforum Headlight Shootout - Trucklite
Virgil is a consulting lighting engineer or something similar ... enough creds, I'd accept his comments about the Petersons being based on test results.
7 inch LED conversions
65_Dart_GT
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Anyone know if I could do this with a stock 65 Dart GT?
BLKNBLU340DSTR
1971 Duster 340
7 inch LED's. I can SEE again at night !
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Wvbuzzmaster
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I swapped in Quadratec LED headlamps on my Duster. A great no cut upgrade that really changes the look, even if you only drive in daytime.
Not trying to pee in anybody's Corn Flakes, but yall do know that LED headlights in these cars are not legal, right? The law says if the car was not equipped with them, that LEDs are not a DOT approved upgrade. Not that I think anybody's gonna run you down to give you a ticket......but.......Jes sayin.
The halogen upgrade I have in Vixen is not DOT approved either, but it should be.
The halogen upgrade I have in Vixen is not DOT approved either, but it should be.
What you're saying is basically right.
You may be OK with Vixen.
Here's how it works.
When the car was made the manufacturers used parts that met standards set out in federal regs and industry standards.
Fed regs for safety are Federal Motor Vehicle Safe Standards (FMVSS) which often also reference SAE and other standards.
My understanding is that lamps, marker lenses etc are not sent in for approval. Rather the manufacturers test and mark them to identify what standards they meet. Only if there was a problem would the government do an independent check.
When we drive a personal car on public roads we need to maintain them to the state's standards.
Most (all?) states allow lamps made to newer standards.
If the markings on the lamp are legit (in other words the manufacturer actually can prove it actually meets the standard for using the marking) and the beam pattern is correct, you're probably completely legal.
You may be OK with Vixen.
Here's how it works.
When the car was made the manufacturers used parts that met standards set out in federal regs and industry standards.
Fed regs for safety are Federal Motor Vehicle Safe Standards (FMVSS) which often also reference SAE and other standards.
My understanding is that lamps, marker lenses etc are not sent in for approval. Rather the manufacturers test and mark them to identify what standards they meet. Only if there was a problem would the government do an independent check.
When we drive a personal car on public roads we need to maintain them to the state's standards.
Most (all?) states allow lamps made to newer standards.
If the markings on the lamp are legit (in other words the manufacturer actually can prove it actually meets the standard for using the marking) and the beam pattern is correct, you're probably completely legal.
AlaskaJeff
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YIKES!! Too rich for my blood
The Cibie E code headlamps are not DOT approved. Period. If there's an E on the headlamp, that's the European code. It's stupid, really, because they should be DOT approved. Their jeweling focuses the light on low beam in a wedge pattern getting bigger toward the right side of the road. They literally blast road signs to pieces. They also have a sharp light cutoff line on low beam. That's very considerate of other drivers. On high beam, they are a different story. They focus light down the road, not a bunch of wasted light on the road right out in front of the car giving the illusion of "better lighting". They actually ARE better lighting. But as I said, as long as the headlamps are aimed properly, there is little chance of trouble.
Lastly, keep in mind the market is slam flooded with cheap lighting of all kinds. An "upgrade" to LED bulbs in some H4 style headlamps for instance, will result in really poor performance, because halogen and LED bulbs do not shine light in the same way. The headlamps need to be LED specific, as LED lights in a halogen headlamp housing will result in a scattered and non focused light pattern. The two are entirely different as far as light output. I've tried both dedicated LED headlamps and H4 halogen conversions and so far I am slap sold on good quality H4 halogen headlamps. Both Cibie and the Hella H4 conversions are really nice with the Cibie coming out on top. But they need to be the older Cibie lamps. The newer ones leave some to be desired.
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