You are correct. The ball on the rocker and the cup on the pushrod should be the same size (not one @ 5/16 and the other @ 3/8 for example). If you Mopar guys need pushrods in lengths other than the stock length be careful to ask the supplier or manufacturer which measurement they use and require. It could prevent ordering the wrong length. When I ordered mine the description listed the dimension as overall length so that's how I measured my pushrod checker. Had I ordered from Smith Bros. they need the effective length (bottom of the cup) and I would have measured mine accordingly. MikeCup depth from the lip to the bottom may vary and the "effective" length is the actual, physical, mechanical pushrod length, like the overall length of a ball/ball pushrod. The cup does nothing more than locate/capture the adjuster. Stamped rockers have the cup built into them.