Low gear set from A999 installed into 904. Anyone experience gear noise?

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Hey All. Like the title says. I pulled a low gear set from an A999 and gave it to my local builder to install into my 904 during a rebuild. I had read that the low gear set can be "noisy". Yes it is noisy. Odd thing is that it didn't start until I had a couple hundred miles on it. Has anyone experienced this and can you describe the sound for me? TIA.
 
Just like a rear end ring and pinion when they get worn and the factory backlash specs go out of whack, they make noise.

New carrier bearings and races moved the ring gear back into spec and the noise of the rear end goes away. 2 full trips back and forth to Florida and is still rolling fine > no noise.

Same with your transmission, you have 2 different generations of parts that you are trying to match up. Gears are cut in different machine shops and different years and are off just enough to make noise.

Tear it open and get in there with the Yellow gear backlash paint to see the wear pattern mating surface of old parts to new.

Bet you see the Heal Toe contact patterns are off to an other than ideal position.


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Makes sense. Just odd that it took a few hundred miles before it started making noise.
Any thoughts on longevity? I can live with the noise for now. I have a 42RH waiting in the wings but it might be a year out.
 
If it's making noise in 3rd gear, it's not from the gearset because the unit turns as an assembly,
it can be from a bearing inside the trans or t/converter or possible rear end.
 
As for the longevity with a whining planetary, I had one that I ran for several years, and I later sold it that way. New owner blew up the slant some years later but the 904 was still happily whining. IIRC it was just Second. or maybe just First; I forget, I mean that was like 47 years ago. How do I remember the year? Cuz I bought that car just weeks before getting married, spring of 77; so help me I better not forget our anniversary. and the trans got my attention real quick.
I had taken that trans apart looking for the noise but couldn't identify it. Since it was just one gear, I didn't take it to the next level.

AFAIK there is only one ballbearing in a 904/727, which is used to steady the output shaft, out by the Speed-O area.

I also remember that the planetary whine is pretty distinctive.

I also discovered that when changing between the two gearsets, EVERYthing on the output shaft has to be swapped together. You cannot mix and match planetaries from an A904 onto an A998/999 output shaft. They are a matched set. ( EDIT; Actually, I think the change was at a particular year break).
I accidentally got this wrong, and within 30 miles the aluminum planetary had all the splines ripped right out of it. When I took the trans apart, I could not see a difference. Research revealed that to me.
Since I could not see the difference, I had to take another core trans apart, and this time swapped it all over as a set; problem solved.
 
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