Making power out of the 318

-
Status
Not open for further replies.
Newbomb Turk said:
And the Hemi NA is less than spectacular. Far from it.
Click to expand...
The Hemi was way under cammed and the 440 was under headed and under cammed.
In my mind the 340 and Roadrunner 383 were the only true performance engines . They were perfect for their cubic inch displacement.
 
barbee6043 said:
What % of "kids" under 30 (40?) don't want a Toyota or Honda!?
Click to expand...
30 or 40 months s not a kid. LMAO!
barbee6043 said:
A stock 318 AND360 are simply gas sucking people transporters. Anything more requires some $$ and a roadmap (blueprint) that works.
Click to expand...
Gas sucking by today’s standards! Fo-Sure!
I did get 20 Hwy w/2.76 gears on 235/50/15’s in my ‘79 Magnum.
No headers, just a decent tune and dual exhaust/a Carter 600, MP distributor and 2-1/4 dual exhaust with some turbo mufflers, as the non stick items only.
Mean416 said:
I have news for everyone here. Chrysler, pre-gen3 hemi, only ever made one actual performance engine for passenger cars. And it's not a small block. And it's not a 440 either.
Click to expand...
Dreaming a nightmare I see.
Mean416 said:
Hemi. Full stop.
Click to expand...
When it was an OEM, the production line, stock, it sucked.
Mean416 said:
I love small blocks but they weren't performance engines "from the factory"
Click to expand...
Yes they were!
Mean416 said:
. Head flow was abysmal,
Click to expand...
Doesn’t mean crap. 50 years plus years from now, they’ll be saying the same **** about the modern LS/HEMI & Coyote engines.
Mean416 said:
They had hydraulic cans
Click to expand...
Nothing wrong with Hyd cams
Mean416 said:
with non-adjustable valvetrain,
Click to expand...
Big deal! Though the rockers sucked!
Mean416 said:
two bolt mains,
Click to expand...
Doesn’t mean crap
Mean416 said:
cast pistons,
Click to expand...
People can go pretty far with cast pistons
Mean416 said:
low compression,
Click to expand...
In later years due to government emissions

Mean416 said:
on and on. They were designed for reliable passenger car transportation.
Click to expand...
That’s where the came from…. SO what
Mean416 said:
I think I just have a different set of criteria regarding what constitutes a performance engine.
Click to expand...
Yours is more along the line of a race engine
Mean416 said:
I think of an engine designed with racing/high performance in mind, from the outset.

To me the hemi was the only engine that met these criteria, and that was because it was designed as a racing engine first, and a passenger car engine second. Just my opinion. I know many of you won't agree or are too brand loyal to see it.
Click to expand...
I agree with that BUT since it was a detuned race engine, it really sucked ***.
 
Dan the man said:
I know that it's not a important part of what the op is doing. I just simply stated something that at one time or another would have to be looked into. I thought that the idea was to point out different things that would have to be done. junkyardhero made some very good points and I respect him for that
Click to expand...
It's clear you are The Guy who does not have a car, but walks around the car cruise or show and tells everyone what they should or should not have done.
Carry on.
Did you buy that car?
 
340six said:
It's clear you are The Guy who does not have a car, but walks around the car cruise or show and tells everyone what they should or should not have done.
Carry on.
Did you buy that car?
Click to expand...
I don't go around anywhere telling anyone what to do or not do with their car's.
 
Dan the man said:
I don't go around anywhere telling anyone what to do or not do with their car's.
Click to expand...
You have clearly posted you have. Even stated you did not know what you were doing but gave advise anyway, and got lucky since it fixed his car.
Go read your past post.
Also your advise to was the 1050 carb and intake was wrong as it just needed tuning. Something you and him could not do.
So you were wrong and cost the guy money as well.
It also proves my point.
 
273 said:
Obviously each can have their own interpretation of what performance is but yours is pretty limiting, Hemi was more of a race engine in a production car, to me performance is when you have an excess of power more than what's needed to do everyday driving, where the line of peppy to performance car is ?
Click to expand...
I have an old Toyota Corolla for a commuter. Love that little car. It has a **** ton of miles on it and still drives like new. I'm sure it would go 100 mph. More than enough for everyday driving. Performance car?
 
340six said:
You have clearly posted you have. Even stated you did not know what you were doing but gave advise anyway, and got lucky since it fixed his car.
Go read your past post.
Also your advise to was the 1050 carb and intake was wrong as it just needed tuning. Something you and him could not do.
So you were wrong and cost the guy money as well.
It also proves my point.
Click to expand...

He has a point Dan.
 
Mean416 said:
I have an old Toyota Corolla for a commuter. Love that little car. It has a **** ton of miles on it and still drives like new. I'm sure it would go 100 mph. More than enough for everyday driving. Performance car?
Click to expand...
Generally performance is measured how fast you can get to say 100 mph.
 
340six said:
You have clearly posted you have. Even stated you did not know what you were doing but gave advise anyway, and got lucky since it fixed his car.
Go read your past post.
Also your advise to was the 1050 carb and intake was wrong as it just needed tuning. Something you and him could not do.
So you were wrong and cost the guy money as well.
It also proves my point.
Click to expand...
The person asked me what I would do, I didn't approach him about his car. Back then I probably couldn't tune, I can now
 
340six said:
You have clearly posted you have. Even stated you did not know what you were doing but gave advise anyway, and got lucky since it fixed his car.
Go read your past post.
Also your advise to was the 1050 carb and intake was wrong as it just needed tuning. Something you and him could not do.
So you were wrong and cost the guy money as well.
It also proves my point.
Click to expand...
I didn't cost the guy any money, I didn't force him to buy anything so you can get off that kick
 
I farted.


Oops. Wait a minute. I mean I sharted.
 
rumblefish360 said:
He has a point Dan.
Click to expand...
I know, but I was a lot younger than. Going by what you all have been saying I'm thinking that I just won't help or advise anybody again even if there's a chance that I could be helpful that way I won't have to worry about if I did the right thing or not.
 
Dan the man said:
I didn't cost the guy any money, I didn't force him to buy anything so you can get off that kick
Click to expand...
Please post the info where they give away new free aftermarket high performace auto parts.
The rest of would like some too.
 
So, should we start a thread bout picking a cam for 318s? this thread kinda went off the rails bad anyway.. :)
 
Dan the man said:
I didn't cost the guy any money, I didn't force him to buy anything so you can get off that kick
Click to expand...
This is a cop out as we used to say. If you suggested a course of action via even a “What would you do if it was yours,” then the questioner could have blindly followed your words, advice for him or not.
Dan the man said:
I know, but I was a lot younger than. Going by what you all have been saying I'm thinking that I just won't help or advise anybody again even if there's a chance that I could be helpful that way I won't have to worry about if I did the right thing or not.
Click to expand...
The thing is, the words you write show your absolute non experience and zero expertise in most matters while following the crowd of ridiculous ideas.

Just because someone out there can tune a 1050 Dominator on a stock 318 doesn’t mean it’s a good idea but yet people bring it up as if it is an easy kill. Suggestions and thought processes like this are basically insane and should be seen as the exception to the rule rather than any thing else reasonable.

In your last PM to me I said there are many thought patterns to the same route and end goal. Some good, some not so good, goal dependent. You simply parrot the popular and sometimes absurd while not fully knowing what you are saying while saying like you know what your saying.
 
Icetech said:
So, should we start a thread bout picking a cam for 318s? this thread kinda went off the rails bad anyway
Click to expand...
Use a 1968 340 4 Speed cam. Ask who has one that is 100 percent like it was ground off a master.
20 pages later.........
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
-

Back
Top