Mopar model 223 Radio

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Hello.

My radio is silent. The speaker is toast, so I need a new one. The old one does not say 4 or 8 ohm, does anyone know which one ?

I guess I should have had a schematic for the entire radio. Something is wrong in the radio too, because there is not even a clicking sound in the speaker, and if I use a 1.5 volt AA battery I get a click click every time I connect it to the speaker.

I have searched for info for the Mopar model 223, but found nothing so far.


Bill
 
My 63 service manual does not have that model radio but shows the speakers at 4 ohms. Also make sure the antenna is plugged in and grounded as it is the ground for the radio chassis.

Brian
 
What Brian said. A bad antenna wire - either conductor but especially ground, will make your AM like you describe.
 
I have looked in my shop manual, and it does not say anything about 4 or 8 ohm for the speaker. It does confirm that a '65 Dart would be equipped with a model 223 radio.

Then, when you say your '63 manual say 4 ohm, maybe all cars use 4 ohm, because most often if you buy speakers for home they are 8 ohm, and have been so for quite a while. But, if you buy speakers for vehicles, when I think about it, I have yet to see a speaker that is not 4 ohm. Not that it does not exist, but I have not seen it. So, it might have been an unnecessary question. Then who knows what they used back in 1965.

The antenna was fully plugged in, but if there was a connection, that is a whole another matter. I will have to measure how the ground to the antenna is, and the connector in the radio.

Still would have been nice to have the schematics or even better, a manual for the radio. That said, an AM radio is not that complicated so I might be fine when I open it. I also have the option of finding an AM radio kit to put in there. However, the old one might have better reception than these new radios. I see many are for sale, all the way down to 20 dollars, but the reviews are not good, unless you are within city limits you do not hear much or anything on FM.


Bill
 
Those old radios could be fixed. Mostly I find they have dried up electrolytic capacitors in them. Change them out and it may work. I may be able to fix it for you if it's not too far gone.
 
cudajim said:
Those old radios could be fixed. Mostly I find they have dried up electrolytic capacitors in them. Change them out and it may work. I may be able to fix it for you if it's not too far gone.
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Thank you. I found a youtube movie about those radios. I have not watched the entire movie, but after that I will at some point look into it. I need a new speaker, so that is a given. I have found one I think will fit that is low cost, and probably better than the original one anyway. Boss BRS69, goes some places for under $20.00.
I have taken out the speaker, because it was rattling horrible when driving. There is a frame between the dash and the speaker itself that I think is supposed to have some kind of self adhesive foam rubber seal, and that was totally gone so the frame was loose. The speaker foam suspension was gone, and the cone is brittle and partly gone too. They do have repair kits for it, but since that Boss speaker is less than $20.00 I am not going to buy a re-cone kit for $28, and then a foam suspension kit for whatever dollars, and then have the job on top of it. And maybe it will not be good anyway.

If I need more help, I know who to contact. Oh boy, you live in Grass Valley, that is not far from Paradise,... huh. Must have been smokey up there, it was horrible here and we ourself had the bad fire in 2017. Well, such is life.


Bill
 
The radio repair has been postponed, but today I got the circuit board loose, it took 800 degrees on the iron to melt the solder, and here is my question. Is it normal the the solder is that hard to melt ? Just wondering because modern solder melts at far lower temps.

Bill
 
I have to sometimes revert to my old high wattage soldering iron to get some of the connections loose. They tend to have ground connections on pc boards right to the metal of the radio so it's a huge heat sink.
 
cudajim said:
I have to sometimes revert to my old high wattage soldering iron to get some of the connections loose. They tend to have ground connections on pc boards right to the metal of the radio so it's a huge heat sink.
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Yes, that is true. It takes a lot of heat. By the way, I have gotten the schematics and service manual (a minor one) for the 223 and 226. From what I understand it is the same radio, but the 223 was used in the Dart, and the 226 was used in the Coronet. Bendix 56ML. Then today I have been driving around the city to find a 12 volt battery I could use as a power supply for the radio. So, the day was at an end when I got back home. Hope to look at it tomorrow.

Bill
 
Bills65Dart said:
Yes, that is true. It takes a lot of heat. By the way, I have gotten the schematics and service manual (a minor one) for the 223 and 226. From what I understand it is the same radio, but the 223 was used in the Dart, and the 226 was used in the Coronet. Bendix 56ML. Then today I have been driving around the city to find a 12 volt battery I could use as a power supply for the radio. So, the day was at an end when I got back home. Hope to look at it tomorrow.

Bill
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Any chance I can get a copy of your schematic? [email protected]
 
Bills65Dart said:
Hello.

My radio is silent. The speaker is toast, so I need a new one. The old one does not say 4 or 8 ohm, does anyone know which one ?

I guess I should have had a schematic for the entire radio. Something is wrong in the radio too, because there is not even a clicking sound in the speaker, and if I use a 1.5 volt AA battery I get a click click every time I connect it to the speaker.

I have searched for info for the Mopar model 223, but found nothing so far.


Bill
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I know this is an old post but I have one that works. I could swap out the dial plate if you need.
 
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