Mounting a scoop to a glass hood on 67 Valiant

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I have a glass hood for my 67 Valiant and also just picked up a glass 6 pak scoop. The 67-8 Valiant hood has a 3" or so indentation that runs down the center of the hood. The scoop pretty much sits flat. What do I do to fill in this gap? How would you? The scoop does have some metal tabs for screwing or bolting to the hood but it also sits flat all the way around. I don't want any visable gaps at the front or back of the scoop. I have never done much body work or fiberglass work before. What am I looking at? Thanks
 

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That'll never look right unless it's glassed to the hood, and even then it'll be so obvious it doesn't belong there because of the lines of the hood that it may stand out as cheesy.

But, it's just some random A hole's opinion. :D
 
be sure it won't be easy - probably not a good rookie project.. not saying it can't be done or that you can't do it - just use caution.. being I am not a body guy but have attempted to do some here and there.. I know first hand how it can go south real quick.. specially with fiberglass
 
id use a max wedge scoop instead. it looks right on 67-8 hoods and mounts behind the center valley
 
That is a VFN hood. I'm not sure who made the scoop but it looks like one of theirs. I do want to bolt and bond it to the hood so it doesn't look cheesy or fly off
 
The max wedge scoop is too big. I think it looks more at home on a BB car not a small block car plus it takes up most of the hood. If they made a baby max wedge scoop I might go that route lol. I'm not looking for a huge scoop,just one big enough that my air cleaner can fit in.
 
I spoke to them and they are 6 months out on work. They used a mint hood I had as a template and people who bought one seem pretty happy with the product. :)
 
It's complicated, but...
First thing, lose the flange on the scoop, then cut the hood to fit the scoop opening so that you can then glass the two together from the inside (underside of hood). Then its just a matter of finishing off the radius where the two meet. The detent in the hood can be blended in at that time.. easy!
 
Wouldn't the flange aid in forming/bonding it to the hood and give it a more secure mounting?
 
liking the sound of the plan - but you start by saying it's complicated and end with easy - which is it?
pauly v.100 said:
It's complicated, but...
First thing, lose the flange on the scoop, then cut the hood to fit the scoop opening so that you can then glass the two together from the inside (underside of hood). Then its just a matter of finishing off the radius where the two meet. The detent in the hood can be blended in at that time.. easy!
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It can be done with some careful planning/ cutting and patience.
The difficulties I see joining the two parts you have is how thin the vfn hoods are.
I would probably make a pattern made of poster board that sets nice on top of the
scoop flange. Use it to mark and cut the hole in the hood. Slip the scoop into the opening
from the bottom and use a epoxy body panel adhesive to bond them together.
Should be easier to finish the top doing it this way. Rough up the mating surfaces
so it gets a good bite.
 
A bolt on scoop would be much easier. By the way those little "L" brackets
won't hold the scoop on for a single pass down the track.
 
Well "easy" was a bit facetious, but having a base that goes around the entire scoop does help. That way it can be glassed around its entire perimeter on the inside negating any need for the mounting flange, you can't do that on most scoops. I think they're there for mounting to steel hoods anyway. Since both surfaces are fiberglass, you're making the scoop an integral part of the hood, not an addition to the hood as you are with steel.
Just like anything its the prep work on the surfaces to be glassed that is most important, i.e. expose (grind) all surfaces to be laminated down to raw clean fiberglass. Soften all edges and corners to be glassed with a grinder so the material will lay down. The glass work itself is pretty straightforward and with the bulk of the glass work happening on the under side of the hood, the outside seam only needs a thin layer to provide a good base for finishing.
There's a ton of little tricks that would take forever to try to explain but I'll try to help if you have questions.
 
So your saying I should mount it in the hood from below on a glass hood?
 
I would. As Pauly says it would take alot to write out a step by step here.
I would put some extra effort into ensuring the profile of the hood doesn't
change thru the bonding process. Something along the lines of two 2x4s
cut to the shape of the hood. You could set the hood upside down on these
profiles and as the scoop is pressed into place with the panel adhesive the hood would be supported and stay true to form during the cure. Cover your 2x4s with saran wrap or waxed paper to prevent your form from being glued to your hood. Once cured you can glass in the
bottom side. As for the scoop you could cover the areas with a few layers of masking tape you didn't want the adhesive to mess for easier finishing of the top side.
 
If it were me I'd sell the hood scoop and pick one that is more fit friendly to your hood, Personally I don't like hood scoops on a car but sometimes clearance is needed, I have a 1968 Valiant and I picked a 1964 Max Wedge scoop as it fits the hood great and kinda looks like it belongs on it easy to install as well no body work needed bolt it on and go made a rubber gasket where it meets the hood out of rubber fender beading from the old 1940's cars worked out great . Just my opinion and I'm not a fan of the 6 pak hood scoop ! Good luck .
 

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as you may have gathered by now - it's not a simple process and if you're not very comfortable doing fiberglass body work, then you will want to "farm it out" - it's not a good job to cut your teeth on. I imagine you have already invested some decent coin into this.. spend a few (ok, quite a few) more bucks and have it done professionally. Try too hook up with someone who does this who doesn't work in a production shop (privateer over a collision shop) and see if you can be there to watch and learn as it goes...
 
I ran into Glasstek at Indy and he said $260 to mount it for me. They at least know what they are doing.
 
Fiberglass is expensive lol. A hood $400,a scoop $100,install the scoop $260. I will keep this hood til I die.
 
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