I work cheep because I love to paint & I am not out to make a killing. Plus I would put my paint jobs up agents anyone.
Need advice on body & paint $$$$$
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all I can say is i'm glad to just be a "driver type" guy!!! no need for perfect car, no need to "win" the car show trophy, great for those that require that.....and more power to the guy that expects perfection! and doesn't mind the costs!
yes, lots of true information here. but I have seen "perfect" body work done with a lot" less to work with" than some of you guys say it requires.
like he said, why would anyone pay those kind of paint/ body work prices to do anything less than a "high end rare" car?? and if they choose to, then I guess they can afford whatever it costs???
if I wanted to have that kind of " highend paint work", I would HAVE to find straight rustfree example from back west and just pay the shippiong!!??? just me
yes, lots of true information here. but I have seen "perfect" body work done with a lot" less to work with" than some of you guys say it requires.
like he said, why would anyone pay those kind of paint/ body work prices to do anything less than a "high end rare" car?? and if they choose to, then I guess they can afford whatever it costs???
if I wanted to have that kind of " highend paint work", I would HAVE to find straight rustfree example from back west and just pay the shippiong!!??? just me
Woods74
Broke Senior
It's not about what you spend, its what you build. With all that you could have built a garage, and built the car yourself with a great outcome; It's not about anything accept time, patience and willingness to learn. Not skill, not talent, not money, not parts. All that s*it is window dressing.
Moparnutt340
Well-Known Member
Do you know what happens when you "ASSUME"
First off, you obviously haven't read my previous comments before tossing your opinion out.
The money spent thus far has been a total of $200 paid out for labour, the rest is for new restoration parts. I built my own car thanks !
Actually no your wrong about the garage comment. My engine and trans cost more than what I spent building my own shop last year, by myself.
I have pissed around building 30-40 cars over the last 25 years where I spent just a couple G's and did it all myself, then even flipped them for profit. This is the first car I have even done that I look to professionals t handle the 2 key elements, and I'm not looking to cheap out on. Engine & Paint
Some things are just better left to pro's. If this car was just a race car or something I'm gonna beat around on the streets with I would paint it in my garage and drop in a shelf built SB
I had Mike at MRL performance build me a bad *** street motor 408 stroker, 512HP/519TQ. All in about $12,900.CAN
Now I'm going to spend just slightly more for the body and paint, now currently estimated at $14,000.CAN
That is just about the same amount for those 2 things as what I have spent entirely on the rest of the car. Keep in mind this is by choice. I could have had it painted for $2500 and rebuilt my 340 myself for about $1500
I'm going all out this time because I plan to keep this car forever to be handed down to my son who is currently 16. He will be learning the drag strip next summer with this car, throttle restricted of coarse
Muslca
Well-Known Member
There will always be those so called "experts" out there who think they know everything, but they really know jack squat. I have been in the hobby long enough to realize that only
too well. A Quality paint job cost more than they know.
too well. A Quality paint job cost more than they know.
Moparnutt340
Well-Known Member
Woods74
Broke Senior
Great attitude bro, keep it up, you'll go far here. Since your so savvy, maybe you can explain why this thread even take up space on FABO, 3 pages no less.
You sit and complain, and when I toss out a hardy way to deal with it, I get chastised; I didn't see where you explained how awesome you are, my bad. Guess I need to take mind reading classes online. :roll:
And is way more work than they will ever know!
eldubb440
Member
problem solved..... thread over.....lmao
Moparnutt340
Well-Known Member
:wack:
Someone give that guy a tissue
Thanks but my attitude is fine and I've never had a problem on FABO before. In fact it sounds like you have a problem.
Now to explain why the thread is taking up space on FABO ? I would guess its because this is the kind of things normal people discuss in a car forum. Apparently its a good topic since several have chimed in. Thankfully for the most part everyone has given good info. I do know enough however to know which ones don't have a clue. Oh and since your so easily offended, that comment isn't directed at you personally. :dink:
And was I complaining somewhere in this thread ? What have I said that now makes you feel that I'm awesome ?
Well better yet, don't bother explaining you ignorance to me because I'm done with this thread now anyway.
Thanks to everyone that shared useful input !
norton
Doing the best that I can
Just my opinion, but if you can get your car done for under $15k, with all you are having done. And your getting quality work, then your getting a real good price. I paid $12k. just for my paint.
paul smart
Well-Known Member
like i said try windsor collision i took my charger there i installed the quarter skins and jambed the car out myself they did complete outer body paint for me for under 3 grand
paul smart
Well-Known Member
that was either 3-4 years ago
TheMoparMan
Modifies everything
Like others have stated before you do get what you pay for. Earl sheib want out of business and so did one day paint centers in my area. Not all Maaco's are created equal though. There are members here that have done the body work and prep and took the body to be painted at Maaco or the equivalent and it came out good. But it depends on what you spend. Also depends on the quality of the prep. There is a Maaco Shop in my area that deals with a lot of classic cars. Owners get them blasted and prepped on their own and bring it
Stripped down ready to be sprayed. He charges anywhere from 2 to 8 grand for the painting. Depends on the paints etc. And this is at a Maaco. They also do the usual cheap Crap for the junker cars and imports. Those people just want as cheap as possible and that's what they get.
TheMoparMan
Modifies everything
Here is a buddy of mines nova. He had it blasted and then preped it himself. Had it all stripped down to just the body and towed it in for the paint. Had the maaco in the area paint it. He spent 6 grand on the paint for inside and out. It took a couple of months for them to do it. Again you get what you pay for.
Thank you,great post. Exactly where I stand now. Have shot a few BC/CC paint jobs for 150 a squirt for fun,can't afford to do it with the high end equipment needed nowadays. So I stick to basic bodywork ,a bit at a time, and will finish it, with patience. FWIW: A 30 year P & B professional ,just retied(@47 ,physical ailments). He is charging, 50 an hour. He took on a crusty El Camino,nine months of straight bodywork. The car is roughed out,the worker in hand,was handed keys to a custom chopper that cost the customer 9k (and said it was cheap...) The car, isn't done yet.
That's gorgeous! (Again,prep and what you pay for....).
eldubb440
Member
when "customers" become "friends", you know you must be doing something right..... both of these went home for assembly, just in the past week
gts4fuji
Well-Known Member
Sounds like your friend is giving you a great price of 10k for a show quality paint job. I would ask your friend if he was willing to paint your car as a filler job and maybe set up a payment system. That is if your not on a time limit for it to be completed. My Duster was painted in 3-months. My painter and I agreed to a driver quality paint job at 9500.00
cwatts
Well-Known Member
Tough to imagine the paint job will be worth almost the value of the car when complete.
SNKEBIT
Spending $$ on Mopars
all these discussions are very true. yes, the top quality materials costs more than the lesser quality stuff. personally , I love looking at a car restored to better than when new. do I want that? no I want to drive my car and not worry bout a gravel peck. i'm not in the financial bracket to spend that kinds of bucks discussed here. more power to those than can afford it...
i know it's a fact what is said about equipment... compressors for instance. . Yes, that $2000 compressor is what is needed and sometimes required to run good d a's, air files, etc.... can it be done with less? yes. seen it done by more than a few shops.... and flawless work too....
i guess the reason some of us try to push the point that a driver quality (or better) job can be accomplished without the mega $ equipment and the high $$ pro..., is, well its a FACT!!!! when i say "can", that means with adequate equipment, adequate knowledge, and spending the time to get it as right as the guy wants. yes the better the materials, the longer life the paint will have, and the easier it is to do a better job with.
my guess is there are more people on this site looking to have decent body?paint work without spending the forementioned $9500 for a driver quality job???? skills are acquired with knowledge and experience... for those not able or wanting to spend those $$$, any and all info on this site will help this group!????
if given a choice, i much rather see someone learn some basic skills, use a 5 hp sears compressor( if that's all vailable) and shoot it with tractor paint,,,, than squirt it with aerosol cans... just me...
i know it's a fact what is said about equipment... compressors for instance. . Yes, that $2000 compressor is what is needed and sometimes required to run good d a's, air files, etc.... can it be done with less? yes. seen it done by more than a few shops.... and flawless work too....
i guess the reason some of us try to push the point that a driver quality (or better) job can be accomplished without the mega $ equipment and the high $$ pro..., is, well its a FACT!!!! when i say "can", that means with adequate equipment, adequate knowledge, and spending the time to get it as right as the guy wants. yes the better the materials, the longer life the paint will have, and the easier it is to do a better job with.
my guess is there are more people on this site looking to have decent body?paint work without spending the forementioned $9500 for a driver quality job???? skills are acquired with knowledge and experience... for those not able or wanting to spend those $$$, any and all info on this site will help this group!????
if given a choice, i much rather see someone learn some basic skills, use a 5 hp sears compressor( if that's all vailable) and shoot it with tractor paint,,,, than squirt it with aerosol cans... just me...
gts4fuji
Well-Known Member
A picture of my 72 Duster with the driver quality paint job
The major problem is that the materials are getting out of hand.rotest:
X2 I painted the engine compartment last weekend in my duster.
I used cheap summit base clear, $65 a qt plus reducers, clear etc.
I bet I have $200 in just materials for the engine compartment.
g413
Well-Known Member
Wow! Good discussion, but scary since I need a paint job. It helps explain why cars with good paint jobs usually start at about $17k on eBay.
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