Need Your Help - Trunk Lid Torsion Bar Alternative

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bigaadams said:
are your glides in good shape? not missing or extremely worn? if these are intact..then you could have sag due to age...did you adjust one side only to the next notch and leave the other in orig. position....may have to mix and match a bit....I would not know where to find original data for re-curve of any torsion spring..
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I have adjusted up and down the slots in every conceivable way. It's either too soft or rips your face off.

Glides? I don't see no stinking glides.
What are they, where are they supposed to be, and what do they look like?
 
bamboo...today everything is bamboo....your only option then is finish....
 
I did mine here are some pics.

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Darthomas said:
Haw! In Mexico, I saw a leaf spring on a truck replaced with a properly shaped tree branch!
You are almost there, take one torsion bar out, after propping it open with tree branch Mopar part no 2765375.
Note which direction twisting is being applied, the angle at rest, and anchor one end in a vise or other manner.
Apply torque sufficient to change the resting angle more, or less, as desired, for more or less torque when installed.
Then selectively try combinations of hi-mid-low positioning, (both sides) to perfectly balance the weight of the deck lid.
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Ahhhh I missed this post.

This makes sense to me. I'll give it a shot.
 
momoparman said:
I have adjusted up and down the slots in every conceivable way. It's either too soft or rips your face off.

Glides? I don't see no stinking glides.
What are they, where are they supposed to be, and what do they look like?
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as I do not know your exact year cuda....here is a pic of springs and glides....the glides fit on the end of the springs and held there by the hinge bar itself
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A press console for the mfr I worked for was re-designed about 1991, and included a lift top, with a mounting point for a gas strut, which, for the sake of cheapness, was never installed. Once I was at the factory, rebuilding a customer's piece of equipment in the area where these new consoles were being built. I asked one of the factory engineers how they expected to keep the cover open for service, and he replied, "Use your head ", and he meant that literally.
Then I saw where a new console in build had a section of pallet wood cut to length, doing the job, and wise-*** had inscribed it with a fake part number.....
 
bigaadams said:
as I do not know your exact year cuda....here is a pic of springs and glides....the glides fit on the end of the springs and held there by the hinge bar itself
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1969 Cuda Vert.
Do you have am installed pic of those guides?
 
momoparman said:
1969 Cuda Vert.
Do you have am installed pic of those guides?
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sorry, I do not....you need to look under the hinge arm and see if your spring and arm is riding bare metal to bare metal..if so, the glide or slide if you prefer is missing and it just slips on the spring end through its center bored hole. The flanges on either end of the glide holds the glide onto the square hinge tube and pressure from the spring ensures it stays in place......I cannot say for certain what years interchange etc but they look so similar to the Diplomat and 5th Ave cars through '89..these are still somewhat available through your wrecking yard, may warrant an investigation...glides/slide can be flipped for extended wear if caught early..
 
momoparman said:
I looked up Mopar part no 2765375, and there are two options. Pine or Oak. Around here were having issues with Japanese beetles decimating pine. I'm afraid the oak will be too stiff an I'll be right back where I am now.......any other part numbers available?
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2765375B it is made from Bamboo but then you may have an issue with introducing foreign parts into you classic car.
I may have a set of torsion bars from a notch I parted several years ago. I will give it a look later this week.
 
i think the alternate number is 8675309. but can be subsituted with a tuve of poly vinyl chloride found at your local hardeware store.
 
OK.
I looked, and my set up (69 vert) does not have the need for those bushings, or anywhere to put them. My T-bars are different shape on one end than the picture above. I think I will try the re-bending procedure.
 
thanks for the feedback...I posted what I did as some models used them..your profile nor first post did not provide a year of production....
 
In my case the torsion bars didn't last forever, they were so weak, even on the highest setting, they would not open the trunk lid, of even hold it in the open position after I lifted it up.
I could not find a source for "new" torsion rods, and I figured buying used ones is a crap shoot as to weather they would be any better than my old one.s

I chose to ad gas struts as a "helper" to the original torsion rods. Works well and is nearly invisible unless your really looking for them.
 
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