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Can someone please explain what NOS means. There are a lot of opinions and I would like to know what the FABO family terms as NOS.
 
New
Old
Stock

Nitrous
Oxide
Systems....some call it nawzz with irritates me no end.

Never
Own
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That's about all I got.
 
what does new old stock mean, used pulled off a car, in a box, rusty, painted etc? My definition is a part that is in pristine condition as it was made from the factory with documentation and never used or installed. Is that right ?
 
blewbyoutobad said:
what does new old stock mean, used pulled off a car, in a box, rusty, painted etc? My definition is a part that is in pristine condition as it was made from the factory with documentation and never used or installed. Is that right ?
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In the original box, never used or tested on a vehicle. Like a in non-popped cherry in the world of most guys!
 
A lot of parts are advertised as NOS without the original box. Stuffed in a Ziplock with a hand written part number isn't NOS in my book.
 
New Old Stock is what I've heard.
Often in original packaging that shows plenty of handling and shelf wear, but the part itself is NEW, NEVER INSTALLED.
 
Technically, NOS means New Old Stock or New Original Stock. It is sometimes misunderstood and misused. If it really is NOS, that means that an original Mopar (or Ford, GM, etc.) part sat on the shelf at a dealer or parts distribution wharehouse somewhere for 30 years or so. Maybe it got lost in the shuffle and found later? Who knows. Anyway, somehow that part winds up for sale 40 or 50 years later. NOS parts may, or may not be good.

May be good: If it REALLY is an original part (preferably still in the original box) that just never sold, it is probably a wonderful thing. However, as mentioned below, there can be problems.
May not be good:
It is entirely possible that the reason a part sat on a shelf at the dealership for YEARS is that it was defective and was not thrown out. Let's say that in 1972, a Plymouth dealer body shop ordered a 71 Cuda fender, and it fit poorly. They would order and receive a new one but what happened to the defective one? It is entirely possible that it found its way to a swap meet 45 years later as a rare (and expensive) NOS fender that may not fit so well. I have also heard (not substantiated) that when a part didn't fit quite right on the assembly line it would be set aside and placed in the parts inventory waiting for a dealership or body shop to order it. Maybe they figured that professional body men would not mind tweaking a fender to get it to fit??? Another thing to think about is buying an NOS electric part. They have been sitting for 40-50 years, and that might not be too good for electric circuits and contacts. I bought an NOS gas gauge about 20 years ago. It looked great, but it did not work. And yes, I did diagnose that the gauge was definitely the problem. I wound up mailing it in to a specialist to be repaired. Then it worked great. He said he saw a lot of that with NOS gauges and other electric/electronic items. So I paid for that part twice. I AM NOT SAYING DO NOT BUY NOS PARTS, but I would buy them from someone I trusted. That way if it did not work/fit, a refund/adjustment is possible. Also, some sellers will consider a slightly used 45 year old part to be NOS. If it is original and in GREAT condition, that's great, but to me it isn't NOS.
 
harrisonm said:
Technically, NOS means New Old Stock or New Original Stock. It is sometimes misunderstood and misused. If it really is NOS, that means that an original Mopar (or Ford, GM, etc.) part sat on the shelf at a dealer or parts distribution wharehouse somewhere for 30 years or so. Maybe it got lost in the shuffle and found later? Who knows. Anyway, somehow that part winds up for sale 40 or 50 years later. NOS parts may, or may not be good.

May be good: If it REALLY is an original part (preferably still in the original box) that just never sold, it is probably a wonderful thing. However, as mentioned below, there can be problems.
May not be good:
It is entirely possible that the reason a part sat on a shelf at the dealership for YEARS is that it was defective and was not thrown out. Let's say that in 1972, a Plymouth dealer body shop ordered a 71 Cuda fender, and it fit poorly. They would order and receive a new one but what happened to the defective one? It is entirely possible that it found its way to a swap meet 45 years later as a rare (and expensive) NOS fender that may not fit so well. I have also heard (not substantiated) that when a part didn't fit quite right on the assembly line it would be set aside and placed in the parts inventory waiting for a dealership or body shop to order it. Maybe they figured that professional body men would not mind tweaking a fender to get it to fit??? Another thing to think about is buying an NOS electric part. They have been sitting for 40-50 years, and that might not be too good for electric circuits and contacts. I bought an NOS gas gauge about 20 years ago. It looked great, but it did not work. And yes, I did diagnose that the gauge was definitely the problem. I wound up mailing it in to a specialist to be repaired. Then it worked great. He said he saw a lot of that with NOS gauges and other electric/electronic items. So I paid for that part twice. I AM NOT SAYING DO NOT BUY NOS PARTS, but I would buy them from someone I trusted. That way if it did not work/fit, a refund/adjustment is possible. Also, some sellers will consider a slightly used 45 year old part to be NOS. If it is original and in GREAT condition, that's great, but to me it isn't NOS.
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The fender would not pass as "nos"
The moment the first bolt goes through it, it becomes a used part
 
harrisonm said:
Technically, NOS means New Old Stock or New Original Stock. It is sometimes misunderstood and misused. If it really is NOS, that means that an original Mopar (or Ford, GM, etc.) part sat on the shelf at a dealer or parts distribution wharehouse somewhere for 30 years or so. Maybe it got lost in the shuffle and found later? Who knows. Anyway, somehow that part winds up for sale 40 or 50 years later. NOS parts may, or may not be good.

May be good: If it REALLY is an original part (preferably still in the original box) that just never sold, it is probably a wonderful thing. However, as mentioned below, there can be problems.
May not be good:
It is entirely possible that the reason a part sat on a shelf at the dealership for YEARS is that it was defective and was not thrown out. Let's say that in 1972, a Plymouth dealer body shop ordered a 71 Cuda fender, and it fit poorly. They would order and receive a new one but what happened to the defective one? It is entirely possible that it found its way to a swap meet 45 years later as a rare (and expensive) NOS fender that may not fit so well. I have also heard (not substantiated) that when a part didn't fit quite right on the assembly line it would be set aside and placed in the parts inventory waiting for a dealership or body shop to order it. Maybe they figured that professional body men would not mind tweaking a fender to get it to fit??? Another thing to think about is buying an NOS electric part. They have been sitting for 40-50 years, and that might not be too good for electric circuits and contacts. I bought an NOS gas gauge about 20 years ago. It looked great, but it did not work. And yes, I did diagnose that the gauge was definitely the problem. I wound up mailing it in to a specialist to be repaired. Then it worked great. He said he saw a lot of that with NOS gauges and other electric/electronic items. So I paid for that part twice. I AM NOT SAYING DO NOT BUY NOS PARTS, but I would buy them from someone I trusted. That way if it did not work/fit, a refund/adjustment is possible. Also, some sellers will consider a slightly used 45 year old part to be NOS. If it is original and in GREAT condition, that's great, but to me it isn't NOS.
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White man speak truth!! I've bought quite a few NOS parts and although they were new and didn't look used some have been. For example, I bought a NOS door latch for my son's '46 Chevy (brand new in the original box). It looked brand new as far as I could see. When I went to install it I found that the factory had drilled the alignment pin hole at the wrong angle which made it impossible to install. It wasn't off by much but it couldn't be installed. Luckily I'm a machinist and "massaged" the hole with some jewelers files until I was able to use it. I eventually installed it and it worked perfectly and should last forever. The dealer probably tried to install it many, many years ago and since it wouldn't line up they just put it back on the shelf and grabbed another one....40 years later I bought it. This has happened more than once to me. So even though I prefer NOS parts (as opposed to re-pops) I think that everyone should be prepared to fix/modify whatever they might buy. It wasn't the seller's fault, he didn't know it was defective, they buy stuff in bulk from old dealerships and have no idea why the item was never used. Buyer beware....I still prefer NOS stuff but then again, I'm machinist so I can fix almost anything!!

NOS - New Old Stock

treblig
 
Thanks all, I know this but a fellow Mopar member here is trying to sell a Dart qtr panel cut off a car as NOS. Rust and all. Some newbies to the hobbie may not know what a NOS part is and get ripped off. The price is low and it looks like a usable part, but calling it NOS is deceptive. Maybe the guy selling it doesnt know what NOS is but we fellow Moparians we should try to help each other. I'm not calling him out, just dont want others not informed to think a panel cut off a car is NOS.
 
blewbyoutobad said:
Thanks all, I know this but a fellow Mopar member here is trying to sell a Dart qtr panel cut off a car as NOS. Rust and all. Some newbies to the hobbie may not know what a NOS part is and get ripped off. The price is low and it looks like a usable part, but calling it NOS is deceptive. Maybe the guy selling it doesnt know what NOS is but we fellow Moparians we should try to help each other. I'm not calling him out, just dont want others not informed to think a panel cut off a car is NOS.
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:rofl::rofl::rofl:cut off a car and NOS?
 
I was told nos was new parts that weren't up to the quality the factory wanted, they are not used, so they are factory seconds. Kim
 
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diymirage said:
The fender would not pass as "nos"
The moment the first bolt goes through it, it becomes a used part
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I TOTALLY agree with you, but that won't stop someone from listing it as an NOS part. I would look at a fender carefully to see if there were any signs of mounting at all.
 
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