Re-fueling issue

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plumkrazee70

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Hello Everyone,

Just put my dart on the road this weekend and am trying to work out a few things.

I went to the gas station and here in Oregon there is no self service. I asked for a fill, and the attendant locked the handle so it would fill automatically. Once it clicked off, fuel shot back out of the filler neck and they had to wipe some off the quarter panel.

What would cause this? I checked my cap and it says "non vented" Is this correct? It is a "factory style" screw on, not a locking one.

Thanks!
 
Quite a common problem. Not sure if it's because of the pump pressure nowadays or what. It might have something to do with the diameter of the nozzle since they switched to a smaller one after they started installing those in tube anti siphon things.

Usually when I fill mine I stand there and hold the lever and listen carefully for it to start up the filler tube (think filling a glass with water and how the tone changes) once I hear that I stop pumping.
 
Typical for early A-body and some other vehicles. Slight change in the delivery nozzles along with increased delivery rate are the cause.
 
The vent system is not the cause. There is no way that the 1/4" vent could possibly keep up with airflow going out of the tank as fuel goes in. I think BadSport has it down. Here in Idaho, we are not troubled with uncaring attendants, or the booted evap pump systems (yet.)

I fill at about 3 "favorite" stations, and click to to full tilt until I judge the tank maybe 1/2 full, then back down to the first or second "click." I have very little trouble. There are a couple of stations that I specifically avoid.

You should see how the filler meanders into the tank of my 95 Olds Cutlass. It rarely gives trouble, and is a tiny thing many feet long and goes into the side of the tank, which is surely below fuel level when full. Hell, it never "pukes" unless you are trying to "push" it to the "last click"

The point I'm trying to make, here, is it seems to me this 95 if anything should be at a much lesser advantage to spillage

Look at the size of the second hose. It's about 5/8, the size of heater hose. You can see that the "main" tube is not much larger, and certainly much smaller than the ones in our A bodies
 

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