Rebuilt A 833 front oil leak

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Question 3 : silicone or no silicone? My guy used nothing. The red is grease.

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Hang on; the "snapring" in question is the great big one on the bearing itself. The retainer has to sit more or less flat on the face of the trans, before the gasket goes on. That big snapring has to fit in the recess provided for it. We call it a snapring but the truth is that there's nothing snappy about it, lol. I myself just don't know the proper name of it.

As to your other questions;
#1,The up and down play at the tip of the input gear is normal.
#2, nothing, The seal and the gasket got it covered.
#3, I have never used any sealer on the gasket, not ever, and never have I had a leak there, lol.
#44, If you look at the factory retainer bolts, they have a raised ring on the surface that seats against the retainer. That is usually sufficient to seal the screwholes. At one time, I had sealing washers for those screws, for redundancy. If your bolts are standard off the shelf bolts with lockwashers, then you will need to seal the threads.
 
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The rubber seal needs to have grease on it so it doesn’t get burned on start up before the oil gets pumped up to lubricate it for the first time after install a new seal. And yes there is play on the shaft.
 
AJ/FormS said:
Hang on; the "snapring" in question is the great big one on the bearing itself. The retainer has to sit more or less flat on the face of the trans, before the gasket goes on. That big snapring has to fit in the recess provided for it. We call it a snapring but the truth is that there's nothing snappy about it, lol. I myself just don't know the proper name of it.

As to your other questions;
#1,The up and down play at the tip of the input gear is normal.
#2, nothing, The seal and the gasket got it covered.
#3, I have never used any sealer on the gasket, not ever, and never have I had a leak there, lol.
#44, If you look at the factory retainer bolts, they have a raised ring on the surface that seats against the retainer. That is usually sufficient to seal the screwholes. At one time, I had sealing washers for those screws, for redundancy. If your bolts are standard off the shelf bolts with lockwashers, then you will need to seal the threads.
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Thanks AJ, I've got the factory bolts for the retainer thankfully. I started grinding down the diameter on the c clip snapper ringermabob as per some earlier info, but after measuring the minimums and maximums needed for the thing to fit in the retainer recess and also work as intended I stopped, found Dan at Brewers. " #44" lmao thanks for the chuckle.
 
I8NEMO said:
Question 3 : silicone or no silicone? My guy used nothing. The red is grease.

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Interesting question as I am also "refreshing" a A833 gearbox.
I purchased the Kindle version of the Jamie Passon book "Chrysler A833 transmissions : how to rebuilt & modify", and Mr Passon highly recommends to use silicone RTV on the bearing retainer gasket and bolts.

Just my 2 cents, I know nothing about gearbox and I learn something every day :rolleyes:

@Dan Brewer : I will order some parts from you, but I wait January and the return to normality after the end-of-year festivities. I hope you have reasonable international shipping fees :)
 
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French demon said:
Interesting question as I am also "refreshing" a A833 gearbox.
I purchased the Kindle version of the Jamie Passon book "Chrysler A833 transmissions : how to rebuilt & modify", and Mr Passon highly recommends to use silicone RTV on the bearing retainer gasket and bolts.

Just my 2 cents, I know nothing about gearbox and I learn something every day :rolleyes:
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I supply the gaskets to the previously mentioned...any why you would use silicone on them IDK. I do not, and have no problems. Under the head of the bolt is the only place I ever use sealer, and I have been using a non-hardening sealer.

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Permatex it is! who can forget the unique odor, reminds me of when I was a kid helping Dad on the Power Wagon. Can't find the torque setting for the retainer bolts, anyone have that handy?
 
I8NEMO said:
Permatex it is! who can forget the unique odor, reminds me of when I was a kid helping Dad on the Power Wagon. Can't find the torque setting for the retainer bolts, anyone have that handy?
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Book calls for 30 ft/lbs....too much in my opinion. I use 250 inch/lbs on used cast retainers.

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Here's a visual showing the slight difference between the correct and incorrect bearing retainer ring. Correct ring ( left) has the smaller diameter/ shorter section height. If a guy's not savvy or in a hurry I can see where the taller clip could get installed mistakenly. An Incorrect bearing retainer clip prevents the retainer housing from mating against the gasket in fact, in rides on the bearing retainer clip guaranteeing a leak. A good way to check is slide the retainer housing on without a gasket and make sure it mates with the gear box housing, there should be 0 gap. I got the correct bearing retainer on from Brewers this morning, perfect fit.

Thanks Dan
 
I8NEMO said:
Here's a visual showing the slight difference between the correct and incorrect bearing retainer ring. Correct ring ( left) has the smaller diameter/ shorter section height. If a guy's not savvy or in a hurry I can see where the taller clip could get installed mistakenly. An Incorrect bearing retainer clip prevents the retainer housing from mating against the gasket in fact, in rides on the bearing retainer clip guaranteeing a leak. A good way to check is slide the retainer housing on without a gasket and make sure it mates with the gear box housing, there should be 0 gap. I got the correct bearing retainer on from Brewers this morning, perfect fit.

Thanks Dan
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