Should a Kaiser be allowed at a Mopar show?

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toolmanmike said:
There's a interesting discussion going on over at FCBO. Should a Mopar cousin Kaiser be allowed at a Mopar show?. Like AMC. They are distant cousins to Mopars and not siblings. How far out do you go? Fiat? Mercedes? Renault? Willys? (I would love to include those old gassers) What do you think? No real good answer. I like that Kaiser though!

would a Kaiser be welcome at a Mopar show ?

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This seams like one of those Politically correct questions that goes too far. You had better include all the Japanese cars that were built from crushed Mopar junkers in your show also.
 
I think we (Mopar owners) should include any auto enthusiast to keep the sport alive!
 
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My vote is to include them
Don’t see why not
We have guys on here putting in chebbie LS motors in mopars so ??
I Love all old cars and respect the guys who built them and are proud to show them
 
If its American iron let them all in. The more the merrier.
 
Well, IF they can find the time between the Kaiser Nats, Kaisers at Carlisle, the Yellowstone "Kaisers at the Geyser" meet, the "Wilhelm Tribute" meet, etc.,......sure, if they'll have Us.
I wouldn't have a problem with a Kaiser Darrin parking next to any of My Mopars..
 
I don't know. Where does it stop? I mean using the "cousin" theory, you could include Chevy, since General Motors paid Chrysler for the Suburban name decades ago, right? I think AMC's inclusion is kinda on the fence, but where's it stop? To me, Mopar means Mopar. A full blooded Chrysler corporation vehicle. Not Daimler, Fiat, or Stellantis. Because to me, when you say Mopar, you're talking about the muscle car era cars, or some of the little turbo rockets they made through the 80s. I thought that's what "Mopar only" meant. All that said, I've never seen a real "only anything" show around here. Most everything is welcomed. Saying a Jeep is a Mopar to me is like sayin a Buick is a Chevy.
 
If you allow a Kaiser, they you need to allow a Rye...

The rye or the kaiser....

 
I guess that if you were to start excluding makes because the company was bought by Chrysler then you should also exclude Dodge since Chrysler bought them rather than created them. So where do you start and where do you end? I remember years ago when I was heavily involved in putting on a yearly Mopar show that the question came up on whether to include AMC’s and Jeeps in our show.
 
pa340dart said:
My vote is to include them
Don’t see why not
We have guys on here putting in chebbie LS motors in mopars so ??
I Love all old cars and respect the guys who built them and are proud to show them
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LS in a vintage Mopar...abomination, sacrelige
 
I like seeing the AMCs at Mopar shows (well, except for the Pacers), and Hudson, and Kaiser Jeep are also part of that heritage. There are of course others that are part of the family, or once were. Maxwell, Sunbeam, Hillman, Humber, Mitsubishi, Fiat, Mercedes, Lamborghini, Maserati. And then there are even some surprising combinations. For example, the Sunbeam Tiger which of course had the Ford small block under the hood. But, once Chrysler acquired Sunbeam, production continued with the Ford motor through 66 and 67. Chrysler sold, serviced and provided warranty service on the Ford powered Tiger. By late 66, Chrysler was attaching the Pentastar to the right front fender of the Ford powered Tiger just like they did on every other Chrysler product at the time. Also consider that before the Dodge Brothers built their first car, they were manufacturing the engines for Ford Model T's. So technically, those early Ford Model T's were powered by Dodge. Today's Challenger and Charger are based largely on a Mercedes platform, just as the Chrysler Crossfire was. I think its okay to be inclusive of all those cars that have a connection to Chrysler as long as there is a clear tie in to a common heritage.
Yesterday the Winchester, Virginia Apple Blossom AACA car show was canceled due to rain (rain date is June 4th). So the Hudson Essex club, which times their annual event to participate in the show, was left with nothing to do on a wet Saturday before their Saturday evening banquet. I have friends who are in that club (the couple owns a 69 AMX, a 22 Essex, and several Hudsons), and they asked if their club could spend the afternoon at my garage since I have a big garage close to the location of their banquet. It was a very nice group of people, but, they only brought out one Hudson in the heavy rain (most choosing to leave their classics tucked away in trailers or under car covers in the hotel parking lot). There were Hudson owners from Canada, Massachusetts, Indiana, and North Carolina as well as their club members from the mid Atlantic region. These were all people I likely would have never met or talked to at a multi make car show simply because I'm not into Hudsons. Interestingly, several were also current owners of multiple Mopar muscle cars. The owner of the one Hudson that came out in the rain also has a 69 Dart GTS convertible, 70 Charger, and some mid 60s Chryslers. Another Hudson owner (from New Hampshire I think) told me about his 68 Barracuda convertible. A guy from Massachusetts fondly remembered a 4 speed 67 RT he once owned, and I met a guy who lives less than 10 miles away and has a collection of several 1955 Chryslers and Imperials (including a few 1955 300s). I talked to two people who have letter series 1965 Chrysler 300's another who had a 70 Newport convertible, and another who had a 66 Fury VIP coupe and 67 300 convertible. Others spoke fondly of their vintage and modern Dodge trucks. Based on my experience yesterday, I find it interesting to run across this topic today. I like the idea of being inclusive to even distant relatives of the Mopar family. Like it or not, it's part of Chrysler's heritage and from my experience, there are many fans of those distant branches of the Chrysler family, who are well aware of the connection and are Chrysler fans as well. All in all an interesting way to spend a wet afternoon, and it really opened my eyes that there could very well be a stronger connection to the various branches of the extended Mopar family than I had previously thought.
 
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I vote for "let 'm in!!!"......

As long as it doesn't take any metric wrenches to work on them, and they don't have any kind of computer controllers on them, and no catalytic convertors......they're good to go!!!!

:)
 
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