all i can say i was not happy with the airgap ran much better with the victor , would pull right up to 6500 where the rev limiter kicked in / ir gap just does not flow enough for a big strokerLooks to be an Airgap.
all i can say i was not happy with the airgap ran much better with the victor , would pull right up to 6500 where the rev limiter kicked in / ir gap just does not flow enough for a big strokerLooks to be an Airgap.
Probably not for a stroker. It might have to be ported quite a bit to support the airflow demand and it would need to support the demand of the heads. That might get it to support the 6500 rpm flow as well.all i can say i was not happy with the airgap ran much better with the victor , would pull right up to 6500 where the rev limiter kicked in / ir gap just does not flow enough for a big stroker
WHAT INTAKE YOU running ? if it's an air gap forget it runs out of steam at 5600 - 5800 . i got rid of my ported gasket matched air gap for a victor will have it on the dyno soon to see if it makes good power to at least 6500 . air gap made great torque 560 at 4600 but hp dropped after 5600 rpm
mine was maxi ported , just the runner design is not good enough to support the flow needed just can't be done had a few shops look at the airgap and all agreedProbably not for a stroker. It might have to be ported quite a bit to support the airflow demand and it would need to support the demand of the heads. That might get it to support the 6500 rpm flow as well.
Not sure I saw any mention of how they checked out for sealing, seats etc. Care to elaborate? ThanksChecking valves and seats for proper sealing on the Trickflow 190’s
Not sure I saw any mention of how they checked out for sealing, seats etc. Care to elaborate? Thanks
Should go wel with that intake , you should feel a big difference between the super victor and the airgap . let us know how the fuel injection works , i might look into that if it goes well for youOrdered my Edelbrock Pro flo 4 efi from Summit last night and it was at the door before noon today..
Will probably wait a while to install..
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Should go wel with that intake , you should feel a big difference between the super victor and the airgap . let us know how the fuel injection works , i might look into that if it goes well for you
I’ve got those heads, same rockers and am slowly getting things ready for the eventual install. How did your rockers do geometry wise when just bolted on, what correction was needed? Just trial fitting mine on the bench the roller contact is towards the intake a little too much so the shafts will need to be raised some for starters. And did you have to use 5/16” pushrods due to clearance issues? anything bigger a no go or? Just curious, ThanksTop end:
Smith Bros custom 5/16 ball/cup pushrods
Erson 1.6 roller rockers
B3re geometry correction
Billet rocker hold downs and studs
Trick flow 190 heads
I’ve got those heads, same rockers and am slowly getting things ready for the eventual install. How did your rockers do geometry wise when just bolted on, what correction was needed? Just trial fitting mine on the bench the roller contact is towards the intake a little too much so the shafts will need to be raised some for starters. And did you have to use 5/16” pushrods due to clearance issues? anything bigger a no go or? Just curious, Thanks
Absolutely, I’m just wondering how things for Keith? worked out prior to any correcting and if after correction he had to use 5/16” pushrods for clearance. Purely just curiosity as we have the same new heads and rocker assembliesI had my geometry corrected @B3RE, as I recall it was a small offset installed..Best bet is to right to the source for that..
I’ve got those heads, same rockers and am slowly getting things ready for the eventual install. How did your rockers do geometry wise when just bolted on, what correction was needed? Just trial fitting mine on the bench the roller contact is towards the intake a little too much so the shafts will need to be raised some for starters. And did you have to use 5/16” pushrods due to clearance issues? anything bigger a no go or? Just curious, Thanks
Thanks for the details, those look like Angelucci hold downs which I just received. Did your shafts need to just go up or up and away from the valves? I’ve been looking at how things fit and line up. There isn’t much “slop” in the hold downs bolt hole and bolt to allow for lateral movement but hopefully its just enough to allow some.Thanks!I used 5/16 smith bros. This is what I sent michael @ B3.
Engine type, SB 414
Cylinder head type, Trickflow 190
The measured distance between the top of the rocker shaft and the valve tip of one intake and one exhaust. (FIG. A) This seems to vary 4 different valves, .277 I, .266 E, .281 E, .245 I ???
The measured distance from the rocker shaft and the valve stem. (FIG. B) 1.920 to 1.921
The measured distance between the rocker arm bore and the roller tip. (FIG. C) 1.320 - 0.050 (see attached)
The rocker shaft diameter, .6850
The diameter of the roller on the rocker tip, .5460
Intake and exhaust lobe lift from cam card and valve lash, .557 I&E
Rocker arm brand, offset and ratio, Erson standard and 1.6
Thanks for the details, those look like Angelucci hold downs which I just received. Did your shafts need to just go up or up and away from the valves? I’ve been looking at how things fit and line up. There isn’t much “slop” in the hold downs bolt hole and bolt to allow for lateral movement but hopefully its just enough to allow some.Thanks!
Ok, all makes sense. I’m mainly wondering about the fitment of the Allen bolts within the hold downs counter bore and hole as-is. Looking at how any relocation will work and what I might be doing to allow any additional lateral movement such as elongating holes in things. From what I’m reading, providing B3 the required measurements can be done with the heads on the bench? No need to have a fully mocked up engine to verify the geometry. If so I can get on this pronto!If they go up they have to go away. You can never just go up.
Ok, all makes sense. I’m mainly wondering about the fitment of the Allen bolts within the hold downs counter bore and hole as-is. Looking at how any relocation will work and what I might be doing to allow any additional lateral movement such as elongating holes in things. From what I’m reading, providing B3 the required measurements can be done with the heads on the bench? No need to have a fully mocked up engine to verify the geometry. If so I can get on this pronto!
That looks great! I'm on a similar build, but in slow motion. I have a few disabilities, but I'm making progress.
looks like we will all be rolling out the new builds at the same time . i hope for next week , but **** always comes upMine has been a slow roll too.. My builder has been AWESOME, we should be finished real soon.