OK, so I thought I had a sure grip for my 8 3/4 742 center, I pulled the 489 4:10 cuz I sold it and just for the heck of it tried to insert the axle from my b-body rearend in to the sure grip that I will be installing and it appeared the diameter of the axle was, lets say 1/8" larger than the sure grip opening. :wack:What sure grip might I have? Batteries were dead on my camera and forgot my phone when I went to my shop so no pic's.