Teenagers suck

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Hum. At age 16 I was informed I had a job after school and 12 1/2 hrs. Sat. At the local small town grocery store. 1962
At age 18 I graduated HS and mom said, you will start at the jr. college that summer. 1966
Pa (25 yrs. USMC vet) said, join any branch of the Service, I will kick, your *** from here to eternity. 1966
I graduated college June 1970, had to take extra courses to graduate on time as the local draft board seemed to "want" me. I worked 40 hrs a week all during all the summer breaks,and the lottery gave me a number that could go either way. By Sept, 1970, looked like I would not be toting a rifle in the patties, and took a full time job.
Married Dec. 1970. Paid rent 6 months before I .....
Bought 10 ac. Ga 12 year old planted pines, clear cu, pushed, piled and burned all millions of stumps and tops, and harrowed up the Coastal that was there, fenced it, put in a well, and bought single "wide "mobile home". Built my barn out of #3 free lumber from the mill 30 miles away. Used tin. 1971
Never lived with parents after I was a kid. Thought never occurred to me.
Moved-out right after HS and went to Dallas, TX for a summer job, came back to MN in the fall and went to "Da U". Never moved back-in with my folks, and never took a single dime from them, as I realized they had sacrificed enough raising two kids working ****-for-pay jobs all their lives.

Funny thing is, once I was "out" (I was the youngest), all sorts of fancy upgrades starting popping-up at home, and Good For Them!
 
So the jeep is back together. Plasma cutter blew up,compressor blew up,Milwaukee battery broke the case.

But frame is straightish and new patch panel installed. Body parts installed,drives good.

I told him he can drive it in multiple colors until it warms up enough to prep and paint.

Kid did a lot of the assembly and disassembly as well as grinding rust and welds.

He has almost a grand in it. So that stings on a part time job while in school income.

Kid was pretty appreciative. He even fixed the plugged sink drain for me.
 
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So the jeep is back together. Plasma cutter blew up,compressor blew up,Milwaukee battery broke the case.

But frame is straightish and new patch panel installed. Body parts installed,drives good.

I told him he can drive it in multiple colors until it warms up enough to prep and paint.

Kid did a lot of the assembly and disassembly as well as grinding rust and welds.

He has almost a grand in it. So that stings on a part time job while in school income.

Kid was pretty appreciative. He even fixed the plugged sink drain for me.
So maybe he just sucks a little.
 
And although you don't come out and say it, you allude to another BIG problem with families. They think the children are the most important. I've heard SO many single moms say "My CHILDREN are the most important thing in the world". This is wrong thinking, and probably one reason why they ARE single mothers. Their priorities were not in the right place right from the start. The most important thing is GOD and then your SPOUSE. Without them, there IS no family. Putting children on a pedestal only reassures them that what they say goes. They are essentially in charge of the family and that's wrong.
Damn man, I can't thumbs up this enough
 
Nothing wrong with retiring from a pizza job. It's honest work.
His biggest problem there is that he has to manage the largely teenage population that gets a job there. How ironic! He also made the mistake of dating one of the teenage girls there, which exploded on him when they broke up. She couldn’t leave the relationship woes out of the job and eventually got fired. But she made the whole workplace a toxic place to be for all the employees, due to her teenage girl attitude. But other than that, it is a good job, but in the end it’s still just a job. He needs a career that challenge’s him, and not in a teenage way!
 
funny she makes him pay rent

i was living rent free at my parents house untill the day i got kicked out of college
from that moment on, i had to pay rent

of course, they didnt tell me they werent pocketing my rent, they put it all in an account
whatever the balance of that account was turned out to be their wedding gift to me, looking back, that was pretty cool and a huge help because of the way immigration law is written (but ill save that for another thread)
We are doing the same thing. It was my idea to make him pay rent, when I saw the $700/month amount he was paying for online gaming. His Mom washes his clothes, and he takes 2 showers a day, so he’s burning a lot of fuel here. She is saving all of the money he gives her for some legit reason that will come along in his life. And no, it’s not that crotch rocket motorcycle he now wants to buy, but can’t seem to save any money of his own. School, his own place, a wedding, all legit. Hyabusa? Not so much!
 
His biggest problem there is that he has to manage the largely teenage population that gets a job there. How ironic! He also made the mistake of dating one of the teenage girls there, which exploded on him when they broke up. She couldn’t leave the relationship woes out of the job and eventually got fired. But she made the whole workplace a toxic place to be for all the employees, due to her teenage girl attitude. But other than that, it is a good job, but in the end it’s still just a job. He needs a career that challenge’s him, and not in a teenage way!
Well now he knows not to do that chit again. lol
 
And although you don't come out and say it, you allude to another BIG problem with families. They think the children are the most important. I've heard SO many single moms say "My CHILDREN are the most important thing in the world". This is wrong thinking, and probably one reason why they ARE single mothers. Their priorities were not in the right place right from the start. The most important thing is GOD and then your SPOUSE. Without them, there IS no family. Putting children on a pedestal only reassures them that what they say goes. They are essentially in charge of the family and that's wrong.
Disagree, if my partner putting a fictional character above me i am out. Pretty much every mothers number one priority is their child....... hence the word maternal. I would be seriously worried if my partner wasn't putting the children as number one priority! You do realise that a priority would also be teaching them values etc etc they can still be on a pedestal without being spoilt. Actually most people who dont put their kids first spoil them as its the easiest option of parenting
 
So maybe he just sucks a little.
He's actually an awesome kid . Better than I deserve.
But teenagers are still teenagers and I've never known a teenage boy who didn't need some guidance.
Such as "stop driving like a moron,. You don't have the experience to save your own ***".
 
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Mom said once, long ago "Suck it up and be a MAN, life will screw you every step of the way, IF you let it."

Mom also said, just once, "say that again, and YOU WILL be picking your teeth up off the floor." (I only said that once.)
She meant it, she was pretty little, but hard and mean if need be.

My parents we NOT well off. Pa worked about 70 hours a week, every week. And no it did not pay much. Ma worked all her life and no it did not pay much either. How could I possible grow to adulthood and expect them to provide for me???????? Dunno.
 
His biggest problem there is that he has to manage the largely teenage population that gets a job there. How ironic! He also made the mistake of dating one of the teenage girls there, which exploded on him when they broke up. She couldn’t leave the relationship woes out of the job and eventually got fired. But she made the whole workplace a toxic place to be for all the employees, due to her teenage girl attitude. But other than that, it is a good job, but in the end it’s still just a job. He needs a career that challenge’s him, and not in a teenage way!
Everywhere I go I can see this, one bad apple can ruin the bunch...especially if the situation (for lack of a better term) resembled a hen house

It was a bad idea to dip his pen in company ink, but it sounds like she wasn't marriage material anyway
We are doing the same thing. It was my idea to make him pay rent, when I saw the $700/month amount he was paying for online gaming. His Mom washes his clothes, and he takes 2 showers a day, so he’s burning a lot of fuel here. She is saving all of the money he gives her for some legit reason that will come along in his life. And no, it’s not that crotch rocket motorcycle he now wants to buy, but can’t seem to save any money of his own. School, his own place, a wedding, all legit. Hyabusa? Not so much!
Holy cow, 700 on games ?
In about a month a 3 weeks (not that I'm counting) that is darn near a month's rent

I can see school being a good investment, as well as real estate

The wedding, I'm kinda peculiar when it comes to that
I can not for the life of me justify spending more than, say, 1000 on a wedding

To me, your just showing your bride you don't know how to handle finances

I know times change and everything goes up, but when me and the wife got married, 20 years ago we didn't spend a dime AND we got our moneys worth!
(My wife hates that joke)
 
And no, it’s not that crotch rocket motorcycle he now wants to buy, but can’t seem to save any money of his own. School, his own place, a wedding, all legit. Hyabusa? Not so much!


Please do not let him get a crotch rocket...

This just happened on Oct 22 this year... I know this guy on the motorcycle that gets killed in the video from this report... My oldest son met his older brother when they started walking at 10 months old and they have been friends since... Literally my oldest son's first friend... They lived on the opposite diagonal corner of the block from us in Detroit and our son's grew up together in the neighborhood... His dad and I are good friends and he is a car guy too, but not Mopar... They are great people... This is the youngest son on the motorcycle that got killed...

To add to the tragedy, the day he died was his daughter's 2nd birthday and he also has a 3 year old son, both kids now have to grow up without a dad because a bus pulled out in front of him while he was riding his motorcycle at 8 Mile and Coolidge...

Someone told the father that there was an accident and he had a bad feeling and went to the scene to see what happened and he recognized the motorcycle on the ground next to the body under a blanket in middle of the street... One cop told him to step back... Another cop asked him later who he was and he replied, "That is my son"...

When I saw that Blake had died, I called his dad and sent our condolences... That was one of the hardest calls that I had to make... What do you say to a guy who lost his 29 year old son to a motorcycle accident... One that could have been avoided if he didn't ride...

At the scene of the accident one witness told his dad that he was next to Blake at the stop light and he had a big smile on his face... He asked him what he was so happy about, and Blake said that he loved his kids... Then he takes off from the light and the next intersection with a turnaround, a bus pulls out in front of him and he couldn't stop and hit the bus broadside... Gone that fast...


Man dies after motorcycle collides with school bus in Oak Park


The dad got my youngest son into mini bikes and then my son graduated to enduro motorcycles that can be ridden on and off road... My son is a very careful rider and does not get crazy, but I still worry about him when he rides... It's not him, but the other guy that I worry about... After this, I talked to my son and he said he hasn't ridden in a few years and will not ride any more...

Then on Nov 24, I was pulling out of a parking lot and saw this... A guy in the street next to a motorcycle that had just been hit by a car... The cop was talking to him, but he couldn't get up... At least he was still alive, but I don't know how badly he was hurt... The kneeling down next to the motorcycle is a cop asking the guy if he's ok and what's wrong, you can barely see the motorcycle rider on the ground at the cop's knees... I doubt this guy got out of the hospital and his family had to have Thanksgiving without him home....

Seeing this brought the memories of Blake back to me after I was just starting to put them behind me from thinking about it all the time every day...


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So Geoff, please don't let your son get a motorcycle, especially a crotch rocket so this doesn't happen to you... It's better to have your son mad at you for not letting him get a motorcycle, than to have to suffer the loss of him from a motorcycle accident... A senseless loss that could be avoided if he didn't ride...
 
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