I've seen all of those guys and talked to most of them lol I'm about a half hour from there shop in Rockford, impressive place but way way way out of my budget and most of their stuff is giant wheels, viper parts, and worst of all, trailer queens. I wish I had Bill Sefton's money and could afford to buy Mr. Norm's name. That is one bad lookin Demon tho, can you imagine the price tag on one of the 12 he's "willing to build"