top 20 V8 engines of all time…

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Hot Rod... Of course they are going to suck the chevy guys egos. LA engone is FAR superior to all of these accorging to the parameters they listed except in cost (cant out discount a chevy) i am factoring in potential power into SB and BB categories seperately. Hemi has WAY more potential power than the LA
 
Hey Hot Rod. Lets do the same article on 6 cylinder engines so we can all laugh and mock everyone elses FAR inferior 6's
 
only time you will see sbc rated no1 and a small block mopar rated 15 is in a hot rod magazine artical.
 
well, i love my 340...but mopar only accounts for about 5% of the aftermarket.
Surpassed 100,000,000 units sometime last year and there is more speed equipment made for the small block Chev than everything else combined.
it is not my favorite but it has to be regarded as number 1.
 
Since Hot Rod left Studebacker this is what I dug up on Google, too much to copy all of, click the link to read it all--That Jack Vines guy is on Speedtalk and he owns-runs a engine shop and was around in the 1960's building engines, so he knows a few things...this is good stuff here


Yes, that is a lot of good info. Thank for posting that.

The best thing about the Stude V8 is/was that it was a bald-faced copy of as Cadillac, and was way over-built for its size. EIGHTEEN head bolts!!!
That, alone, should make it the darling of the forced-induction set...

My 360 has to get by with only ten (per side.)

Insofar as comparing the small-block Chevy with the small-block Mopar, I had a long-winded discussion with an ex-buddy about the various design parameters of those two engines and came up with this:

Chevy advantages:

Lighter valve train
Lighter rods, pistons, and crank
Generally, better-flowing heads (more on that, later.)
Slightly smaller external dimensions.
Smaller diameter valve stems.
Shorter stroke on MOST engines.
One bell housing bolt pattern fits ALL engines.
Higher RPM potential because of the generally shorter stroke and lighter valve train.
More head bolts.

Mopar advantages:

Bigger block with higher cam placement allowing longer strokes.
Larger bore center spacing (4.44" vs 4.40")
Valves centered in combustion chamber for larger potential diameter and less shrouding.
Stronger (heavier) pistons and rods.
Longer rods.
Superior, shaft mounted rocker arm assembly.
Larger diameter lifters
Intake manifold removal without removing the distributor.
Better-designed, spread-bore intake manifolding.
Thermo-quad cool-fuel carburetor.
Earlier electronic ignition availability (1972.)
No "pushrod" to deal with on fuel pump.
3-speed automatic transmission legality in virtually ALL NHRA Stock Elim. cars.
Double roller timing chain on high performance models (340s etc...)


The superiority of stock small-block Mopars' performance potential vs. their Chevy counterparts is proven in the NHRA's "factored" horsepower specs; the 340s carry MORE horsepower Stock, than ANY of the 350 Chevys. Those numbers are based on actual performances at drag strips everywhere (in North America) and don't lie.

Where Ma made a mistake was, in not including set of W-2 heads on every 340 that went out the door. That would have changed the street scene dramatically...

Anyone who thinks that a small block Chevy motor is easier to work on than a small-block Mopar hasn't worked on both.
 
The early Hemi shouldda been number one hands down, 100%.

Performance potential - NO other STOCK Chrysler crankshaft has the ability to withstand over 1,000 horse power. ALL the early Chrysler Hemis could.

Historic Significance- Really? Do I have to explain this one? Look at what Don Garlits did with STOCK hard parts with the 392. He didn't just set records, he CREATED them.

Looks cool - Again, nothun, but NUTHIN looks cooler than an early Chrysler Hemi. Not even 2nd gen motors.

Affordability to build today - Again, right in line with a Chrysler big block. I oughtta know, I am building one.

Easy to work on - If you can do an oil change, you can work on an early Chrysler Hemi.

IMO opinion it should have been more like:

1) Early Chrysler Hemi

2) LA Chrysler

3) B/RB Chrysler

4) 2nd Gen Hemi

And all the rest of the garbage from here on out. Really? Did they rank the BB chebbie above the B/RB Chrysler? Obviously, their opinions are biased and skewed. Just ask anyone whose had their bb chebbelle's clock CLEANED by a 383 4 speed Road Runner. And let's not even talk about a 440 Six Pack or Hemi car. There was NO comparison. Bunch of retards.

hell yes very well said :cheers:
 
My opinion is a LA Chrysler engine is easier to work on than a small chevy.
1. You change the intake without removing the distributor.
2. The distributor is easier the replace. Its either dead on or 180 out.
3. Doing a head swap, No rocker adjustment needed its plug and play(unless its a 273 with adjustable rockers)

Ditto,...There's been at least one 318 on this house for as long as I could remember,...first engine I ever worked on @ the ripe old age of 10,...have a running argument with my best bro (chivy guy),...that pound for pound and dollar for dollar a chrysler will beat a chivy,...i.e...318 vs 327,...or 340 vs. 350.
 
Obviously no one here has experianced a Caddy 472/500. They sound amazing, look quite cool, have amazing power potential, are easy to work on, and are about 50 lbs heavier than a SBC vs 200 lbs heavier for a BBC. Why they never caught on as drag racing engines is something my dad is confused about.

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/engine/hrdp_0804_541_big_block_cadillac_v8/viewall.html

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/0609em_cadillac_performance_parts_engine/viewall.html

seriously, a 500 cid engine that puts out 95 horses PER LITER at over 6000 rpm, which is super car territory, is pretty impressive no matter how you slice it.
 
and so much for intelligent , factual, engine article ratings :D
It's "opinion" not fact.

Instead of just bashing, why not post up the engines that you believe fit the 5 criteria best?

I did, earlier in the thread (see post#7) I found MoPars to be #1 in 4 of the 5 criteria, and there is obviously one criteria that Chevy owns simply due to the fact that they are more abundant and less costly to by parts for than anything else on the market.
 
Top 20 V8 engines, LOL

How many mass produce V8's were made ? Sounds like Hot Rod didn't want to leave anybody out....

Here is who and what they left out. My personal opinion is that a number of these left out V8 belong on the list...

Some of the American V8 engines not considered in the list.

Studes
232" 1951-54.
224" 1955
259" 1955-1964
289" 1956-1954
352" 1956
283" 1965-66

Caddys
353" (1930-1935),
322" 1936,
346" 1936-1942/1946-1948.
331" 1949-1955.
365" 1956-58,
390" 1959-1963

Cord
288" 1936-37

Hudson
320" 1955
352" 1956
250" 1956
327" 1957


Nash & Rambler (Pre-AMC)
230" 1955
250" 1956-61
352" 1956
327" 1957-66
287" 1963-66
290" 1967-69 (carry over to AMC)
343" 1967 (Carry over to AMC)
390" 1969 (carry over to AMC)

AMC
327 1966
290" 1967-1969
343" 1957-1969
390" 1968-1970
304" 1970-1979
360" 1970-1978
401" 1971-1974

DeSoto
276" 1952-54
291" 1955
330" 1956
325" 1957
341" 1957
345" 1957
350" 1958
1959 switched to Chrysler Corporate Engines

Dodge
241" 1953-54
270" 1955--56
315" 1956
325" 1957
354" 1957-1958
Switch To Chys. corporate engines

Plymouth
241” 1955
260” 1955
270” 1956
277” 1956 (Chryco corporate Poly engines )

LaSalle
340" 1930
353" 1931-33
322' 1937-40

Lincoln
385" 1930-32
(1933-1948 Lincoln went to V12 only)
336" 1949-51
317" 1952-1954
341" 1955
368" 1956-57
430" 1959-65
462" 1966-67
1968 switch to Ford Corporate engines

Mercury
239" 1939-48
255" 1949--53
256" 1954
292" 1955
1956 Switch to Ford corporate engines


Packard
320” 1955
352” 1955-56
374” 1956
289” 1957-58
 
My concept:Started out with s.b.chevy.Went B.b.Chev.Fdll in love with Max Wedges,in between.My top five:s.b.chev,b.b chev,b.b.mopar wedge,s.b.la mopar.s.b.ford.This comes my own perilous out of pocket learnings.I like hands on!
 
It's "opinion" not fact.

Instead of just bashing, why not post up the engines that you believe fit the 5 criteria best?

I did, earlier in the thread (see post#7) I found MoPars to be #1 in 4 of the 5 criteria, and there is obviously one criteria that Chevy owns simply due to the fact that they are more abundant and less costly to by parts for than anything else on the market.
i wasnt bashing, the ratings that were given were merely opinion , not fact, other than production numbers. when it comes to historical significance, the sb had less significance than any mopar engine IMO. the sb chevy receiving a #1 spot is nothing other than everyone jumping on the chevy bandwagon. as far as im concerned, the top five should have been all mopar, in any order.
 
i wasnt bashing, the ratings that were given were merely opinion , not fact, other than production numbers. when it comes to historical significance, the sb had less significance than any mopar engine IMO. the sb chevy receiving a #1 spot is nothing other than everyone jumping on the chevy bandwagon. as far as im concerned, the top five should have been all mopar, in any order.

Here are the 5 criteria for judging:


  • Performance potential - 426 Hemi and 440
  • Historic Significance - Early Hemi and 426 Hemi
  • Looks cool - Any Hemi
  • Affordability to build today - SB Chevy
  • Easy to work on - SB MoPar
These are my selections. Except for "Affordability to build today", is all Mopar.

Regarding "Affordability to build today", SB Chevies are cheaper than any other V8 to be from junk yards, rebuilt, used, new. Parts for chevies cost less than the same part for Ford or Mopar. There are far more after market parts and pieces made for SBC than for any other enine ever produced. So for those reasons, this is the only criteria that the SBC has over either Mopar or Ford.


These are my preferences based on the 5 criteria.



What's your preferences by criteria?
 
Well if 6 cylinders were in the list and it was based soley on ease of maintainance, I believe the slant would've ranked like 150 out of 20. Why did they have to lean the engine OVER the oil filter, fuel pump AND distributor hahaha?
 
Because Matt, a German designed that motor...same dude who designed the Mercedes straight 6 in the 1950's. No sh@t.

-Muad'Dib, I'd agree with you and your dad- there are some motors that absolutely were left out from alot of manufacturer's. Caddy, Buick, and AMC have made some really undervalued/forgotten/under considered powerplants
 
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