Weber 32/36 Tuning

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Need some advice from anyone running a single Weber 32/36 DGEV or DGAV carb. I have a stock '64 Dart 270 /6-904 and need to put a better carb on it. The winner is a the aforementioned Weber and I will probably buy a new one as the junkyard Holley-Webers are scarse around here.

Here is my question.....Tuning? What jets, emulsion tubes, etc. need to be changed to work with the 225" motor? I want to zero in on some combo that works.

Thanks in advance for your help.

N B D
 
The best source is on Jeep Forum. They have an archived thread that covers about any problem you might have.
 
Years ago I used the progressive Webers on VW air cooled engines and a Mopar 2.2L with good results. It is important to limit fuel pressure to about 3 psi. I used adjustable regulators. I also found that a ~3" air cleaner extender and larger air cleaner was necessary. The air flow needs to be straight down, the extender makes it happen. I used stock tune settings.

Also make sure the mounting flange matches the carb base and is at least 1/2 thick. Again unobstructed straight flow is important.

I found the carbs to be responsive, and good MPG.
 
I'm running a DGEV on my 225. Think it's about 98% dialed in now, took me a while. I started with a used DGV and had issues. Got a new DGEV and had less issues. You might check out the slant six website, see "engine" forum and a recent string on "idles rough when warm." Bottom line - DGEV is a good carb with better performance and economy than stock, WHEN you get it dialed in.
 
If you buy a new DGV Weber, run it as it comes for a baseline.

It should be close on calibration, perhaps a bit rich above 4000 rpm @ WOT.

Put fresh plugs in once you get it installed so you can read them easily. 3 to 4 psi of fuel pressure is much easier on the needle & seat, and a stock mopar mechanical pump makes about twice that. Run a regulator.

B.
 
If you buy a new DGV Weber, run it as it comes for a baseline.

It should be close on calibration, perhaps a bit rich above 4000 rpm @ WOT.

Put fresh plugs in once you get it installed so you can read them easily. 3 to 4 psi of fuel pressure is much easier on the needle & seat, and a stock mopar mechanical pump makes about twice that. Run a regulator.

B.

a stock slant pump puts out 3-4psi... the carter upgrade pump puts out up to 6 i think...
 
The 32/36 DGV Weber was usually fitted to 2 litre 4 cyl engines....like the Ford 2.0 OHC engine fitted to Escorts and Cortinas of the 70's.
I don't know how it will go on a 3.7 litre engine......?????.....No top end perhaps ?????
 
I've been runnin one for a few years now on a tired stock motor. Dailing one in is kinda a PITA with continually having to go inside to change jets. I had to fatten my jets up from outta the box. I'm still a little lean but I'm very happy with mine.
It's neat with this carb as I can dial my idle down to as low as 200rpm in park before laboring to stay running. It's a impressive carb!
 
I'm still tuning mine in I guess. Mine is running good. Initially a little too rich, leaned it out some. The secondary jet I was told by a guy running one to drill it out a couple drill sizes...not sure what that meant but I did it. Much better up end performance. But I think I'm still need to check my timing. My engine is running to hot going down the highway. Around town no problem. I've completely went thru the cooling system this winter. Thought I had the problem solved. But went out cruizing in the almost 100 degree heat and it's back to running to hot. So what does everyone think the timing should be on this thing. Stock 225 with 32/36 weber with a bigger 36 jet now. Running pertronix ignition but not the igniter coil.
thanks. I do like the carb.
 
Retarded timing may result in heat issues in engine and exhaust leading to higher under hood temperatures. I would try advancing timing a couple degrees at a time, and see how that works, and what the temperature does. You do not want it to ping, so stop short of that. It is also good to have the vacuum advance working. I assume you have upgraded to electronic ignition?

Also hood to radiator seal is important it keeps the air flow in the radiator, not under hood. Lower front splash shields help with negative pressure in engine compartment, increasing air into radiator from the front.

About the carb, I found the the rectangular air cleaners that often come with the carb kits are not much good. A short velocity stack and larger air cleaner makes a huge difference. My VW kit car gave the cobra guys a hard time in both the autocross and 1/8 drags using that carb, exhaust header and Allison ignition.
 
This thing never over heated before I put the 32/36 on there. This winter I had the radiator completely cleaned out by a radiator shop...new water pump..hoses...thermostat...new fluid. So stock is about 2.5BTDC....what do you mean by advance...5BTDC. It does have a pertronix on it but not the igniter coil. Yeah I would like to change out the aircleaner...I'm not a fan of the rectangle box.
It was running somewhat rich and I did lean it out some....maybe I did to go back a little richer.
 
I would put it back to stock mixture and improve the air cleaner to have a stack at the air cleaner and a much larger air cleaner. The cheap rectangular air cleaners choke the intake air, there is no way to tune that with jets and tubes. I think the Mopar 2.2L used a feedback version of the progressive weber around 1985 on Omni and othe K-Cars. They used a metal air cleaner with cartridge element, it may work much better.

About the timing. The stock 2.5 degree setting is with distributor vacuum hose disconnected and plugged. In your case it is important to know what the cruise timing is, where over heating occurs. The weber may have a different ported vacuum, so you may have to tune the timing off spec. First verify the vacuum dashpot on the distributor functions and does not leak. A mighty-vac is useful as a vacuum source and measuring vacuum. I find it indispensable just like a multi-meter, screw drivers and 1/2 and 9/16" wrenches.

Sometimes when pertronix or even points are installed the screws on the breaker plate protrude such that the sliding to part of the plate is locked, disabling normal vacuum advance operation. An example is removing the screw that holds the condenser and re-installing. Other example is loosing a screw and replacing with one too long. Not having the vacuum advance functioning will result in retarded timing.

If all is OK then I suggest advancing timing a couple degrees, and see how that works for you. Monitor temperature, how the engine responds to throttle and how it sounds. If it seems improved, and the temperature goes down, try advancing a couple more degrees. If the engine starts to have a harshness, pings under load, kicks back when starting, or lopes when coasting the timing is too advanced. There are ways to solve the individual advance issues by modifying curves, but that is beyond the scope at this time. The test is to see if the advance helps to alleviate the heat issue for normal cruise.
 
My slant (both before and after the rebuild) likes 10-12 degrees advanced (BTDC). From what I've read over on .org, this is a very common timing setting. Might wanna give it a try...
 
Thanks guys for the tips. 3 PSI on Fuel and a real air filter..Looks like a stock 225 will work well with the 32/36. I will be ordering a new carb as the junkyard ones are scarce around here.

25 years ago, I had a '73 Saab V4 with a 28/32 Weber and once it had the proper jets it ran very well.

Thanks,

N B D
 
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