What do your eyes think about this Victor340 intake

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Most of you guys know about the posts I’ve made about the Victor340 bolt hole issues. Well any for Abodiesonly member worked together on getting this addressed. Well a local friend asked me if I liked the Super Victor or Victor340 better and I told him about the issues but that I loved the Victor340. I told him to call Edelbrock and see if the new ones are available. Well they said yes and sold him one. He got it yesterday and sent me pictures today. What do you guys think.

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How much does the gasket hang over the center divider?
 
rumblefish360 said:
How much does the gasket hang over the center divider?
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I’m seeing what you are seeing. I personally use bolts to hold it in place. I have an assortment that firmly fit the holes. I think old new stock Mopar left handed wheel studs are my Edelbrock manifold go to.
 
pittsburghracer said:
I’m seeing what you are seeing. I personally use bolts to hold it in place. I have an assortment that firmly fit the holes. I think old new stock Mopar left handed wheel studs are my Edelbrock manifold go to.
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Same as the old ones. What I've always had to do... is cut the center down to the Blue Line and then match the intake to that. The the divider ends up like .08
Edelbrock has the whole thing shifted
 
MOPAROFFICIAL said:
Same as the old ones. What I've always had to do... is cut the center down to the Blue Line and then match the intake to that. The the divider ends up like .08
Edelbrock has the whole thing shifted
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How does that even become an effective seal. I suppose it doesn’t matter much at high RPM
 
What happens if you try the other gasket?

Can you flip the gasket around ( I don't know if they are the same in both sides)
 
Bodyperson said:
How does that even become an effective seal. I suppose it doesn’t matter much at high RPM
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Might be little mo:poke:re than .08 ...but none the less it seals fine as long as you've machined everything correctly.
apparently edd'l crock assumes we'll either do that or weld them up..
Maybe it's a conspiracy. ..to keep us down
 
Dana67Dart said:
What happens if you try the other gasket?

Can you flip the gasket around ( I don't know if they are the same in both sides)
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I asked him to flip the gasket but didn’t hear back from him. That was a Felpro gasket but one I don’t use. I’ve been told the printout seal goes toward the manifold.
 
It looks like a drunk ported a 318 and they ran with that model. Crazy. I'd be PISSED if I paid for some junk like that. Do they give you a Discount for Making it Right?
 
Ironracer said:
It looks like a drunk ported a 318 and they ran with that model. Crazy. I'd be PISSED if I paid for some junk like that. Do they give you a Discount for Making it Right?
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My RPM intake which i got 3 months ago was even worse than that... $450, edelbrock would replace it.. with the same thing.. but months from now when they do another run. I shoulda bought a ebay chinese knock off for half the price.
I ended up grinding the **** out of it and it will work but i will have to pin the gaskets and be using a bore scope to check alignment every single time i install the thing.
 
I don’t think this intake is going to be as bad as some of you guys are thinking. You guys know me well enough to know I would have had 8-10 pictures of if had taken them. An angle picture for something like this tells you nothing. First step is mounting the gasket right the pictures of each pair of runners straight on with a good camera and good lighting. I know it’s WAY better than the one I moved the holes on.
 
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pittsburghracer said:
I don’t think this intake is going to be as bad as some of you guys are thinking. You guys know me well enough to know I would have had 8-10 pictures of if had taken them. An angle picture for something like this tells you nothing. Gritstone step is mounting the gasket right the pitchers of each pair of runners straight on with a good camera and good lighting. I know it’s WAY better than the one I moved the holes on.
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Yeah, that one doesn't look near as bad as mine or those other ones you posted... edelbrock ALMOST fixed it :)
 
Icetech said:
I ended up grinding the **** out of it and it will work but i will have to pin the gaskets and be using a bore scope to check alignment every single time i install the thing.
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Get your alignment as you want it and then drill through each end of the intake flange into the head in a safe spot for removable alignment pins. If you use a new 3/16" drill and go into the head 1/8-1/4" deep, you'll be able to use a 3/16" pin for a slip fit to align the intake/gasket/head exactly the same within a thousandth or two, every time. Get the bolts finger tight and then the alignment pins are removed before the bolts are torqued so they don't get caught if there is some deflection. You should only have to do this on one side because the heads are pinned to the block already.
We've done this for decades to make fast change overs on manufacturing machinery, take one module out and pop the other in and the pins save a bunch of work and time. There are other methods and types of pins you can use as well.
 
gzig5 said:
Get your alignment as you want it and then drill through each end of the intake flange into the head in a safe spot for removable alignment pins. If you use a new 3/16" drill and go into the head 1/8-1/4" deep, you'll be able to use a 3/16" pin for a slip fit to align the intake/gasket/head exactly the same within a thousandth or two, every time. Get the bolts finger tight and then the alignment pins are removed before the bolts are torqued so they don't get caught if there is some deflection. You should only have to do this on one side because the heads are pinned to the block already.
We've done this for decades to make fast change overs on manufacturing machinery, take one module out and pop the other in and the pins save a bunch of work and time. There are other methods and types of pins you can use as well.
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Yup, that's what i was gonna do.. but had planned on 1/8" pins
 
I've told people to pin the gaskets. 1st got the idea from a friend who did it, bout 15 years ago.

The point of it is to see where the intake really ends up during installation. It can shift slightly end to end. Worse if its poorly machined decks and heads intake faces involved.
It's more beneficial when theres less than optimal matching been done. Things that are off a few thou 'not parallel'.
Therea a good way and a bad way to do it.
Just a little gaskacinch in 2 spots to keep the gasket 'mark ea. gasket by side' aligned to the head that used the same gasket to port match already.. make sense? Set the manifold on, thread the bolts....check centering of bolts in the manifolds already larger holes...then torque the 35 lbs...THEN drill at the chosen 4 corners where you can go though and not hit water if you wanted...but you go enough to keep the bit held on it's own.
So when the manifold is torqued, drilled through into heads then removed... you can 'with a razor' shave the 2 spots where the gasket is glued from the head.. and now lay onto the manifold, pin, dykem, scribe and grind. But before you start grinding away.. you can now see how much the intake is shifted 'end to end' and if you need to correct its orientation of the common walls...find the best center for the least amount needed removed from one side in other words.
When it goes back together...use a little gaskacinch, the pins to locate... let it tack up... now set ththe intake on using the drill bits to pop in and align...as you torque it down.
That's the way to do without having to use a bore scope the entire time...over n over.
Can still check accuracy with a bore scope if you want of course, why not see how better a method it really is.
 
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MOPAROFFICIAL said:
I've told people to pin the gaskets. 1st got the idea from a friend who did it, bout 15 years ago.
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I hadn't heard of pinning til bout 6 months ago.. my ports were so far off the gasket overhangs a tiny bit.. so i will be shaving the gasket also.. I tend to indian head everything though.. nothing leaks ever, just a pain to clean if you take it apart :)
 
Looks like fun to me, **** I usually want that kind of extra work it is satisfying as long as the thing will bolt to the heads and the bolt holes look in the right place.
 
I think the pictures don't tell the true story. PBR, you have a new intake heading your way. When you get it, you will see the ports line up properly with the Edelbrock gaskets you use.

Bill
 
pittsburghracer said:
Most of you guys know about the posts I’ve made about the Victor340 bolt hole issues. Well any for Abodiesonly member worked together on getting this addressed. Well a local friend asked me if I liked the Super Victor or Victor340 better and I told him about the issues but that I loved the Victor340. I told him to call Edelbrock and see if the new ones are available. Well they said yes and sold him one. He got it yesterday and sent me pictures today. What do you guys think.

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318 ports? :rofl: :rofl:
 
-Boosted- said:
I think the pictures don't tell the true story. PBR, you have a new intake heading your way. When you get it, you will see the ports line up properly with the Edelbrock gaskets you use.

Bill
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Like I said from what I see it looks much better. Camera angle is everything. The owner of this one wishes he could afford to at least gasket match it but I told him it’s something that can always be done later.
 
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