What does it cost?

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Hobbies cost but i think the problem is us. I have seen some take an already very nice car and spend a fortune to completely re do it? A lot of money can be spent on aftermarket pieces that don't provide much improvement...and are often a step backwards for a street driven car.
Stock parts often perform better, but that's no fun.
I don't think the hobby has to be expensive.

I agree. If you can stay away from the perfectionism, it gets a lot cheaper. My goal has been a nice 10-20 footer driver. I have resisted replacing chrome parts & stuff just because they have some surface blemishes. It all depends on what you want & what your goals are. Everyone is different.

I have decided I want more driver quality cars than one really nice one, but that is just me.
 
I can't/won't afford a body shop so I do my own work. I work till my old *** get tired and I call it a 10 footer and thats good enough for me. I get it on the road and drive it. It ain't perfect. I always have more than one so I can't afford perfect if I wanted it! Care less about car shows and have little ego
I learned 30 years ago if I have a real "collectable" car and it was perfect, I would not drive it enough and was always fretting over it.
 
Just the hardware will set you back a grand over time if you use stainless steel lol
 
OK..understood.That treatment can look very nice. I'm old school and i wouldn't spend any money on stainless steel so i wouldn't have that extra expense.
 
I can't/won't afford a body shop so I do my own work. I work till my old *** get tired and I call it a 10 footer and thats good enough for me. I get it on the road and drive it.

As an old buddy always said..."the fun is in building the car"
He only had one car, an all steel 32 Ford Roadster since 1969 (until about 10 years ago when he added a 32 Ford coupe).
He has made many changes over the years strictly out of enjoyment.
 
OK..understood.That treatment can look very nice. I'm old school and i wouldn't spend any money on stainless steel so i wouldn't have that extra expense.

Completely understand. everyone has their own way and preference and that’s what makes it a good hobby. As long as we’re keeping them going, that’s what really matters.
 
Knew a guy who insisted you weren't a "real" car guy unless you did it "all", mechanical, electric, paint, etc. So what he always wound up with was 50 footers. To compensate for that he spent (and still does) most of his time finding flaws with everyone else's ride.
There was a time I believed I had to do it all, but as many of you know, over time mother nature gets in the way. So these days I'm content to associate with good rod shops that can do for me what I can no longer do (I'm nudging 80 real hard). So what if I didn't personally build it? I get enjoyment out of the conceptual design, and following the build and when I can helping those that are just starting out in the hobby. Just saying.
 
Spot on. I do many things but not all. I’m 32. Had my car 18 years. And many things I’m doing now on the car is the first time attempting. Had good help. Got good guidance. But 100% agree with you there’s a time to know when you just don’t have the ability to do it yourself. The guys always going on about who the bigger car guy is are missing the point.
 
That's about right

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Knew a guy who insisted you weren't a "real" car guy unless you did it "all", mechanical, electric, paint, etc. So what he always wound up with was 50 footers. To compensate for that he spent (and still does) most of his time finding flaws with everyone else's ride.
There was a time I believed I had to do it all, but as many of you know, over time mother nature gets in the way. So these days I'm content to associate with good rod shops that can do for me what I can no longer do (I'm nudging 80 real hard). So what if I didn't personally build it? I get enjoyment out of the conceptual design, and following the build and when I can helping those that are just starting out in the hobby. Just saying.
And I appreciate the help and input I do read all the builds. When I see a suggestion I take it to heart. The SAFETY stuff for sure is welcome. Supposed to be fun not dead first day! I have spent some money for sure. I'm happy and it will be fun but I'm guessing all in will be in the 10000 plus car purchase and shipping 20k in guessing. My number one priority is enjoying this and it's a great stress buster for me from corporate world. I get to be the kid asking questions of the three mechanics I grew up with again. No Ford Fairlane or Cyclones or Galaxy big blocks but that's ok. My brother Larry ever parts with Mercury Cyclone I will be first in line. The Dart is my pal and will stay as it's just like my first car my Mom made me sell LMAO. Crank my tunes and let's do some work folks!
 
I'm not sure this is the correct forum for this thread as I have already done
a restoration thread on my 'Cuda. What I wanted to share with you folks
is how we end up investing so much money into our cars.

There are several of you out there that think A bodies aren't worth very
much in our market today. That's probably the case as our A bodies were
never meant to bring high dollars even when new.

This thread is for you guys and gals thinking about doing a restoration on
your ride and have no idea what you might be in for. I realize you can
stop at anytime you want on your project but for the purpose of this
thread, lets not do that. Lets give this project everything it needs from
start to finish...within reason of course.

Lets get started...where's the calculator:sad7:

The initial investment and the type of car you start with if very important.
My initial investment was $2500.00. That sounded very reasonable to me
back in 2006 for a '67 'Cuda fastback. At that time I didn't realize the
differences between the slant 6 and the V8 drive train. My plan was to
build a V8 car when I bought it. Found out it wasn't wise to use small
drum brakes, small 7-1/4 rear end, small diameter torsion bars, anyway
you get the idea.

New disc brakes and spindles with large ball joints and upper control
arms added $1130.00. Used 340 torsion bars were $40.00 and a used
8-3/4 rear end was another $300.00. The cost of new Moser axles and
preparing the "C" body 8-3/4 was another $606.00. Add in another
$336.00 for a new ring and pinion and bearing set. Now tack on another
$100.00 for the gear set up. Starting to add up and we haven't even
started yet. I'm not trying to scare you, just telling you the facts from
my experience.

We will also need some wheels and tires. $50.00 for used steel 15" x 7" wheels
$290.00 to powder coat the wheels. Red line tires were another $985.16

Engine and tranny redo plus labor and the install was $8830.00. MSD stuff
was $554.00

Paint and body work added another $9000.00

The following is a list of stuff I had to buy for the 'Cuda because a lot of
this stuff was gone or in bad shape. Bear with me...

Radiator $384, fuel tank strap $37, front brake line kit $58, fan shroud
$192(junk re pop), fuel sending unit $159, spring shackle pkg. $70, leaf
springs $200, shift knob $25, flip fuel cap $120, deluxe screw kit $44,
glove box liner $22, roof rail weatherstrip $90, seat belts $100, front
fender patch $63, wheel lip molding screws $22, door panel clips $40,
seat buns $206, fuel tank $233, fish in a circle(2) $60, Chrysler star
emblem $13, ign/door lock kit $35, trunk lock kit $17, gas strap bolt $23,
center console $250, steering wheel $100, dog dish caps $71, radio $40
vents and cover $56, wiper knob $12, dash pad $78, bumper end brkts
$63, ash tray $37, fold down trunk panel $115, shift linkage $54, tie rod
ends/sleeves/brake parts $390, dash bezel/arm rest re chrome $677
fiberglass hood/scoop/hardware $760, window trim clips $47, window gaskets $179,
trunk mat $46, side glass weatherstrip $100, TTI exhaust system
$685, hose clamp kit $13, carpet $375, front glass $260, rear glass $790
tail light bezels $595, clips and misc screws $25, torsion bar support repair
parts $280, quarter panel skin $228, fuel and brake lines $128, tach $200
tach harness $30, remote mirror $277, trunk weather strip $39, fish
fender emblems $68, barracuda script $78, right tail light lens $132
p-l-y-m-o-u-t-h emblem $69, fuel tank pad $17, bumpers $760,
flex plate $111, seat covers $484, door panels $374, motor mounts $75,
redo drive shaft $160, trans brkt $41, emerg brake cable $95, drum brake
hardware $45, misc Year One gaskets, decals screws $57, control arm cam/shaft kit
$59, poly trans mount $40, door handles $195, window cranks $94, fender
splash shields $234, jack instructions $8, misc decals $35, antenna $174,
install headliner $150, wheel lip moldings $250, trunk trim $275, damper $100
pinion snubber $69, fan $33, mini starter $160, power coat dash frame
twice $300, hoses/clamps $298, back up lights $160

I probably have missed some stuff here but you get the jest of it when you
start with a car that needs everything like mine did. I started to use more used
stuff but the condition of it wasn't that good.

By using mostly new items I have created a car that I am very proud to
own and drive. It will never be sold (will be passed on to our daughter
Tonya and her husband Chris).

Our total investment is north of $38,700 and yes the car would never
bring that on the open market but that doesn't really bother me.

I hope this sheds some light on the restoration process and gives you
some data on what you might have ahead of you if you decide to take
the plunge. Good luck to you if you do.

Tony

You can view my restoration thread here:

My 1967 Cuda Restoration
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Tony, we sure do miss you around here, man. I am glad to have gotten to meet Thelma and you and thrilled I got to drive your beautiful Cuda.
 
I'm not sure this is the correct forum for this thread as I have already done
a restoration thread on my 'Cuda. What I wanted to share with you folks
is how we end up investing so much money into our cars.

There are several of you out there that think A bodies aren't worth very
much in our market today. That's probably the case as our A bodies were
never meant to bring high dollars even when new.

This thread is for you guys and gals thinking about doing a restoration on
your ride and have no idea what you might be in for. I realize you can
stop at anytime you want on your project but for the purpose of this
thread, lets not do that. Lets give this project everything it needs from
start to finish...within reason of course.

Lets get started...where's the calculator:sad7:

The initial investment and the type of car you start with if very important.
My initial investment was $2500.00. That sounded very reasonable to me
back in 2006 for a '67 'Cuda fastback. At that time I didn't realize the
differences between the slant 6 and the V8 drive train. My plan was to
build a V8 car when I bought it. Found out it wasn't wise to use small
drum brakes, small 7-1/4 rear end, small diameter torsion bars, anyway
you get the idea.

New disc brakes and spindles with large ball joints and upper control
arms added $1130.00. Used 340 torsion bars were $40.00 and a used
8-3/4 rear end was another $300.00. The cost of new Moser axles and
preparing the "C" body 8-3/4 was another $606.00. Add in another
$336.00 for a new ring and pinion and bearing set. Now tack on another
$100.00 for the gear set up. Starting to add up and we haven't even
started yet. I'm not trying to scare you, just telling you the facts from
my experience.

We will also need some wheels and tires. $50.00 for used steel 15" x 7" wheels
$290.00 to powder coat the wheels. Red line tires were another $985.16

Engine and tranny redo plus labor and the install was $8830.00. MSD stuff
was $554.00

Paint and body work added another $9000.00

The following is a list of stuff I had to buy for the 'Cuda because a lot of
this stuff was gone or in bad shape. Bear with me...

Radiator $384, fuel tank strap $37, front brake line kit $58, fan shroud
$192(junk re pop), fuel sending unit $159, spring shackle pkg. $70, leaf
springs $200, shift knob $25, flip fuel cap $120, deluxe screw kit $44,
glove box liner $22, roof rail weatherstrip $90, seat belts $100, front
fender patch $63, wheel lip molding screws $22, door panel clips $40,
seat buns $206, fuel tank $233, fish in a circle(2) $60, Chrysler star
emblem $13, ign/door lock kit $35, trunk lock kit $17, gas strap bolt $23,
center console $250, steering wheel $100, dog dish caps $71, radio $40
vents and cover $56, wiper knob $12, dash pad $78, bumper end brkts
$63, ash tray $37, fold down trunk panel $115, shift linkage $54, tie rod
ends/sleeves/brake parts $390, dash bezel/arm rest re chrome $677
fiberglass hood/scoop/hardware $760, window trim clips $47, window gaskets $179,
trunk mat $46, side glass weatherstrip $100, TTI exhaust system
$685, hose clamp kit $13, carpet $375, front glass $260, rear glass $790
tail light bezels $595, clips and misc screws $25, torsion bar support repair
parts $280, quarter panel skin $228, fuel and brake lines $128, tach $200
tach harness $30, remote mirror $277, trunk weather strip $39, fish
fender emblems $68, barracuda script $78, right tail light lens $132
p-l-y-m-o-u-t-h emblem $69, fuel tank pad $17, bumpers $760,
flex plate $111, seat covers $484, door panels $374, motor mounts $75,
redo drive shaft $160, trans brkt $41, emerg brake cable $95, drum brake
hardware $45, misc Year One gaskets, decals screws $57, control arm cam/shaft kit
$59, poly trans mount $40, door handles $195, window cranks $94, fender
splash shields $234, jack instructions $8, misc decals $35, antenna $174,
install headliner $150, wheel lip moldings $250, trunk trim $275, damper $100
pinion snubber $69, fan $33, mini starter $160, power coat dash frame
twice $300, hoses/clamps $298, back up lights $160

I probably have missed some stuff here but you get the jest of it when you
start with a car that needs everything like mine did. I started to use more used
stuff but the condition of it wasn't that good.

By using mostly new items I have created a car that I am very proud to
own and drive. It will never be sold (will be passed on to our daughter
Tonya and her husband Chris).

Our total investment is north of $38,700 and yes the car would never
bring that on the open market but that doesn't really bother me.

I hope this sheds some light on the restoration process and gives you
some data on what you might have ahead of you if you decide to take
the plunge. Good luck to you if you do.

Tony

You can view my restoration thread here:

http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=16153&highlight=my+1967+cuda+restoration
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$38,700 in 2012 is worth $50,709.11 today (April of 2023!)​

 
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