why a custom built converter isn't for everyone....
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Speaking for myself there is a difference between not listening and just not being able to do what your saying. Lol you can tell me about this magical 4000 stall converter that drives like a telsa but it cost 1500 bucks well thats Great but if I had to have that my car will set parked for another 2 or 3 years lol I doubt you will remember but when my 318 plans went bad and I decided to build the 360 instead that was 2 years ago!! It took me 2 years to come up with the funds to build a budget 360! Its not that im not listening its just I can't do it. A used 175 dollar boss hogg is better than nothing and if it ain't I guess it will be parked for another 2 years while I'm saving up on that 200000 rpm stall converter for a stock 360!
I wasn't necessarily talkin about you! lol
That's not early a body linkage I see.
Dartfreak75
Restore it, Dont part it!
Oh I know im just saying haha
Dartfreak75
Restore it, Dont part it!
No its a later linkage 77 remember?
You said up there ^^^ you had early linkage.
Dartfreak75
Restore it, Dont part it!
No I didn't that must have been someone else haha that was In the other thread. I said the throttle bracket kickdown and everything came off a 77 charger . Remember?
No. I don't remember that. But there's the obvious issue. You're just makin this way too complicated. I feel like hell tonight anyway. I'm hittin the sack.
And as Dartfreak spoke of, sometimes cost is a factor. In general, if you pay less than 600 bucks for a converter, you didn't buy "a good one". A real nice 9.5 street converter starts at 750 bucks and many will get you 900. I said a good one. If you have a transbrake, or NOS, or turbo, you'll be on the North side of a 1000. Now I happen to have 7 classic vehicles. If somebody wants to pay the low end of 5000 dollars to put a quality converter in each of them, get me your credit card and I'll get to ordering today. Then, when I motor swap, cam swap, gear swap, I'll be HAPPY to send them back in on your dime and run up another 3k on your card Oh, my grey '89 van has a TCI tranny and a Hughes converter in it, I didn't buy either one ... LOL.
Oh, my grey '89 van has a TCI tranny and a Hughes converter in it, I didn't buy either one ... LOL.
How's your Scamp coming along??
gregcon
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A custom converter is fine....just understand that the outcome of any such endeavour will rely very heavily on the skills and knowledge and experience of the person customising the converter. It's half science, half art, and half 'let's see what happens'.
**I've used the British spelling of certain words in this post to make myself sound smarter. **
**I've used the British spelling of certain words in this post to make myself sound smarter. **
yellow rose
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yellow rose
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And as Dartfreak spoke of, sometimes cost is a factor. In general, if you pay less than 600 bucks for a converter, you didn't buy "a good one". A real nice 9.5 street converter starts at 750 bucks and many will get you 900. I said a good one. If you have a transbrake, or NOS, or turbo, you'll be on the North side of a 1000. Now I happen to have 7 classic vehicles. If somebody wants to pay the low end of 5000 dollars to put a quality converter in each of them, get me your credit card and I'll get to ordering today. Then, when I motor swap, cam swap, gear swap, I'll be HAPPY to send them back in on your dime and run up another 3k on your card
PTC sells their street 9.5 for just over 500 bucks. Shipped it comes out to just under 600 bucks.
I just don’t know where you get your numbers. And how price determines if the converter “works” or not. We are talking STREET converters aren’t we? a I have never said to drop 1k on a STREET converter. Hell, for 825 bucks shipped you can get a PTC 9 inch case with an 8 inch stator. Or you can get it with a 9 inch stator...depends on the application. That’s a DRAG WEEK converter. And they work. I’ve used those too. There is more to converters than just the case size.
600 bucks is cheap money for a part that actually works. Of course, you will say you’d have to buy 15 converters because you “test” all sorts of parts and pieces and such, but as I said that’s what a dyno is for. Again, the dyno is cheap money.
is that off the shelf or custom? Some companies have 3 street versions on the shelf. You call them and tell them your build and they pull "one off the shelf" that they think fits your build the best.
ChargedDart75
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I'll bite. I think people are going to do what they want regardless of anybody's opinion. I agree that it may not be necessary for playing with stock or fairly stock parts, but it wouldn't hurt. I went after a custom converter from Dynamic several years ago. It was the most expensive transmission part I bought, but I feel like it was worth it. I went over the engine combo, weight, rear gear, tire size, everything they asked for and they picked what they believed was best. As soon as I get that thing going, I'll find out how well it cruises and behaves on the street and the strip.
I think Yellow Rose read my opening post as I was Anti-Custom converter. That couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, throughout this thread I've shown support for custom converters. My point was it's NOT the ideal way on MY particular project as I'm swapping key part, including engines, to justify having a custom built converter for all the changes. Yet, I'll need a performance converter to continue performing.
and what size, stall and flash stall did they recommend?
famous bob
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Speaking of british words , how do u get their pronunciation of aluminum , out of the way its spelled !??! I see no i in the last 3 letters .
Hard headed bastards wont even listen to the truth , or explain it !
yellow rose
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That’s custom. I just ordered two of the 9.5’s for close to the same application, but they weren’t the same.
One is a 340 with 3.23 gears and a Comp Thumper cam of some sort. And it’s not quite 10:1 compression. I can never remember which one he has but I have it written down...old age and all that. And he has the Air Gap intake.
The other is for a 340 with an MP 280 solid circle track cam, a measured 10.42:1 CR, 3.i0 gears and a Strip Dominator.
They are both 9.5 inch cases but they are not the same converter. I know the first one was a massive improvement over what he had because that one is in already and he is as happy as a pig in poop. Went from a car that was miserable to drive...undriveable really with an 11 inch converter to being a pleasure to drive with the PTC. He has already said he’d never do another car without a custom converter.
The other converter is out on my shelf. It’s going is a 73 Duster that belongs to my friend (both of these guys are very close friends) and I have the engine about ready to pull so I can drop the new engine in. Before that I need to go through the transmission, rebuild the front end and swap out the 7.25 for the 8.25 with sure grip he found.
Plus, I need to get my junker put back together and on the dyno, put my lathe back together, curve 3 distributors, tune 1 single 4 carb, two pairs of tunnel ram carbs, build the BX4 for the Duster and buy and build a second BX4 for me for my tunnel ram.
I’m going to be very busy.
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ChargedDart75
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A 10.5 inch, 4k stall that (the way I took it) will also flash to 4k, but I would have to go back and check the build sheet they send me with the converter.
ChargedDart75
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I hate hearing the way they say aluminum lol
yellow rose
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Me too. When I hear it said that way I have to actually stop and think WTH did they just say??
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