The Superbird Wing Was Not "Idiotically-Ineffective" or "Dumb"

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How do a couple of allen bolts support the persons I have seen sitting/standing on the wings? Anyone have fotos of the wing off the stabilizers so I can see how large/long the allen bolts are?
 
Did you know the engineers said that a 9 inch wing work the same as the final production wing but the taller one was way more intimidating. I wish I could remember where I read that.

Probably the same place I remember reading it, Mark.

As for the discussion of vertical stabilizers of the wing, that was proved out by a man named Virgil Exner over a decade before the winged cars. Those fins from the '50's weren't there just for show.
 
Proper Names

* Vertical Fins.............. 'Stabilizers' {Stanchions}
Part #3571138 {Right}
Part #3571139 {Left]

* Braces {Front}........... 'Stabilzer Supports'
Part #3412764 {Right}
Part #3412765 {Left}

* Braces {Rear} ............ 'Stabilizer Supports'
Part #3412764 {Right}
Part #3412791 {Left}

* Reinforcement Plates ... 'Stabilizer Shoe-Plate'
Part #3571134 {Right}
Part #3571135 {Left}
 
~ Test Question of the Day ~

For all you 1970 Plymouth Superbird 'experts'.

What was the dimension specifications of the Rear-Deck Wing.

* Height of Wing {From the Trunk-Deck to Top of the Air-Foil Wing}
* Air-Foil Wing > Width and Length
* {Vertical Supports} > Width and Height

* Weight of 'complete' Rear-Deck Wing assembly.

* Air-Foil Wing > Type of Material
* {Vertical Supports} > Type of Material

* How many bolts to fasten each {Vertical Support}.

* How many under-deck support braces in Trunk.

I will be checking, because I have 'all' the answers.


You once again did not give a fair test...

What is the answer for:


What was the dimension specifications of the Rear-Deck Wing.

* Air-Foil Wing > Width and Length
* {Vertical Supports} > Width and Height

* Weight of 'complete' Rear-Deck Wing assembly.

* Air-Foil Wing > Type of Material
* {Vertical Supports} > Type of Material


You have asked these questions and did not provide the answers, so as a tester I give you a HUGE incomplete...

And would like to know the answers to these questions (so I can study for the final...)


Once again, you asked questions that you did not give the answers for and then gave information that you did not ask for on the original "test" and then hold that against me...

As I stated before answering (and I was the only one who tried), your tests are slanted...

I called out that the dimension of the wings was a trick question, and you have not given that information, proving my point that it was impossible to give the answer that you were asking...
 
Do you think the Wing car's did for Chrysler, what the HellCat Challenger has done for Dodge today, as far as publicity goes?

It seems everyone has fond memories of these cars.

A person may have strolled in to look at the odd car, but bought a standard Road Runner while they were there.

Speciality cars like this gets the public talking about the mfg.

Regardless on why the wing height was set at, I think the tall wing balances out the nose from a styling stand point.
 
The front and rear spoilers worked together to push down on the car for better traction.
 
Proper Names

* Vertical Fins.............. 'Stabilizers' {Stanchions}
Part #3571138 {Right}
Part #3571139 {Left]

* Braces {Front}........... 'Stabilzer Supports'
Part #3412764 {Right}
Part #3412765 {Left}

* Braces {Rear} ............ 'Stabilizer Supports'
Part #3412790 {Right}
Part #3412791 {Left}

* Reinforcement Plates ... 'Stabilizer Shoe-Plates'
Part #3571134 {Right}
Part #3571135 {Left}

* Air-Foil Wing .............. 'Horizontal Wing'
Part #3571137

* Wing-Insulator ........... 'Vibration Gasket'
Part #3571136

Learn It, Love It, Eat It.
 
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Krazy you've been schooled by the keyboard professor !!!!


Year ~ Make ~ Model ............ Engine ............. Shipping Weight ... Curb Weight

1970 Plymouth Superbird ~ '426 Hemi' ............. #3837 lbs. ......... #3983 lbs.

1970 Plymouth Road Runner ~ '426 Hemi' ......... #3648 lbs. ......... #3794 lbs.
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~ Challenge Question of the Day ~

The Plymouth Superbird had a 54/46 'Front-to-Rear' weight distribution.

The Plymouth Road Runner had a 55/45 'Front-to-Rear' weight distribution.

What are the 'Front-and-Rear' weights of both 'Birds'
 
Where is my answer to how a wing can support that weight with only one small bolt on each side?


Ah, yes 'Grasshopper' that is a good question. You are wise.

First, the Air-Foil Wing {'Clark-Y Foil'} is made of high-strength aluminum.

Second, the Allen-Head wing attachment bolts {Part #3412637}
were 'black-phosphate coated' units.

They were very strong 'Grasshopper'.
 
You answered 'some' of the Test Questions, but not 'all'.

As 'The Professor', I must grade your test as an 'incomplete'.

I well send a note to your parents.
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You still haven't given the dimensions for the wings that you asked.

You think "die cast" is a material, when in fact it is a PROCESS.

You did not answer half of your questions, which is below 50% and you get an "F"...

You are no professor, you aren't even close to a teacher, not even a teacher's assistant...
 
Ah, yes 'Grasshopper' that is a good question. You are wise.

First, the Air-Foil Wing {'Clark-Y Foil'} is made of high-strength aluminum.

Second, the Allen-Head wing attachment bolts {Part #3412637}
were 'black-phosphate coated' units.

They were very strong 'Grasshopper'.


The plating has nothing to do with the strength of the fastener...

How much load can it handle?

Maybe give a material, and diameter, and grade...
 
Krazy you've been schooled by the keyboard professor !!!!


Uhmmm, not...

He still has not given the dimensions for the wing from his first "test"...

Doesn't know the difference between a material and a process...

Thinks that he can give a part number and plating for a fastener and prove how strong it is...

The plating only determines the corrosion protection for the fastener. The diameter, material, and hardness determine the strength...


As I stated before, it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people THINK that you are stupid, than to open it and PROVE IT... #-o


I've had my fun with this guy. :D

His head is so swelled up it may explode... :violent2:
 
Learn It, Love It, Eat It.

Those are part numbers, not dimensions and material. :protest:

You can't answer your own questions.... :???:

I don't need the part numbers, mine are fine and don't need replacing... :glasses7:

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Where are the answers for these questions of yours:

What was the dimension specifications of the Rear-Deck Wing.

* Height of Wing {From the Trunk-Deck to Top of the Air-Foil Wing}
* Air-Foil Wing > Width and Length
* {Vertical Supports} > Width and Height

* Weight of 'complete' Rear-Deck Wing assembly.

* Air-Foil Wing > Type of Material
* {Vertical Supports} > Type of Material

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99.9% of the questions here can be answered by looking them up on aerowarriors.com


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99.9% of the questions here can be answered by looking them up on aerowarriors.com


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Incorrect most Honorable Son.

You will not find;

* Length of the Air-Foil Wing
* Width of the Air-Foil Wing
* Weight of the Air-Foil Wing
* Length of the Vertical Stabilzers {Stanchions}
* Weight of the Vertical Stabilzers {Stanchions}
* Angle of the Rake
* Thickness of Rear Deck Wing and Vertical Stabilizers
* Correct size of the Wing-Attachment Fasteners {Allen-Head Bolts}


The above information can be found at;

Buca di Beppo
Orland Park, Illinois

Ask for '69 Cuda 440'
 
Phosphate coated bolts.
Too bad MOPAR didn't coat all the cars.
Maybe I wouldn't be doing so much rust repair.

Some cars are indisputably ugly. (Yugo?)
Some cars have love them or hate them looks and are debatable
(Guess which 1970 car I'm thinking of.)

I think ugly isn't the right word for a Super Bird.
The word is garish.
And that might not even be the best word.
Perhaps "jarring".
That's why Joe driver didn't want them.
(With exceptions)
"Honey, I bought a bullet. It's got a tail."
Yea, that would work.
It is simply a missile with a wing.
And besides that, it is the only car in the whole wide world that is cooler than a Road Runner.
Beep Beep. How do you top that?

I'm still waiting for my Aero Duster kit.
 
Phosphate coated bolts.
Too bad MOPAR didn't coat all the cars.
Maybe I wouldn't be doing so much rust repair.

Some cars are indisputably ugly. (Yugo?)
Some cars have love them or hate them looks and are debatable
(Guess which 1970 car I'm thinking of.)

I think ugly isn't the right word for a Super Bird.
The word is garish.
And that might not even be the best word.
Perhaps "jarring".
That's why Joe driver didn't want them.
(With exceptions)
"Honey, I bought a bullet. It's got a tail."
Yea, that would work.
It is simply a missile with a wing.
And besides that, it is the only car in the whole wide world that is cooler than a Road Runner.
Beep Beep. How do you top that?

I'm still waiting for my Aero Duster kit.

'Garish'

That is a good definition.

Gaudy comes to mind as well.


As for Air-Foil Wing-Fasteners ....... 3/8" x 16 {Allen-Head}
And, do not forget to use the Washer.
 
Incorrect most Honorable Son.

You will not find;

* Length of the Air-Foil Wing
* Width of the Air-Foil Wing
* Weight of the Air-Foil Wing
* Length of the Vertical Stabilzers {Stanchions}
* Weight of the Vertical Stabilzers {Stanchions}
* Angle of the Rake
* Thickness of Rear Deck Wing and Vertical Stabilizers
* Correct size of the Wing-Attachment Fasteners {Allen-Head Bolts}

Don't ask "El Loco Kuda' for this information, because he has 'nada'.

The above information can be found at;

Buca di Beppo
Orland Park, Illinois

Ask for '69 Cuda 440'


You still haven't answered those questions yourself... In addition to the weight of the wing assy that you asked and still haven't provided the answer...


If you are going to give a quiz/test, stay on point and follow through with the answers - it makes it more interesting for the "spectators"... #-o


Nothing worse than a know-it-all that doesn't.... :violent1: :violent2:
 


You will 'never' get that answer from me. As punishment for your bad 'behavior'.



I'm looking at the 'specifications' of the Air-Foil Wing from > 'Creative Industries of Detroit' right now.

Just fascinating.
 
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