junkyardhero
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thanks for clarifying. i was just trying to understand your position better.
Does this prove David Vizard's 128 lsa formula ?
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No problem, we all have kind of vague understanding of each other.
I'm neither extreme. I'm all for someone throwing something new in the mix. Now, when said person says stuff like "This is the only way to go" or "This is the end all be all", yeah, I'm probably goin the other way. lol
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No three raccoons and a rabid fox in a trench coat.
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that was the secret weapon, to spring on unsuspecting people!
what gave it away? the chariot pulled by 13 black cats?
Yes, my Baby Pink Nose looked at me and said, "Daddy, somethin's fishy about this dude"
**** it, changed my mind.
I’m out.
I’m out.
Ok?
Oh yes! Oh yes! Oh yes!
Our old club had an amazing deal with the local Dodge dealer. How sweet was it?
It was this sweet. Monthly I’d purchase a new camshaft to swap in and try out in every avenue I could get my scrawny *** to and hit the hammer all day and all night
I’d tinker constantly. Swap out intakes like crazy. I had about 14 different intakes and the ones that were the same were stock and modified. Spacers, big and small AFB, AVS, TQ swaps. Modified & stock LD-340, Torquer intakes, M1, strip doms etc…
Swap headers out, exhaust tube sizes , mufflers stacked laying down hip high. Piles of clutch set ups, 8-3/4 center sections lined up in paint buckets.
All of this crap in a shed, corner of the garage, ready for the next cam change out. I ran through so many cars, the local junk yard town guy gave me his number and said just call me, I’ll be right over. Personal relationships with junk yard owners for a decade .
Getting phone calls of what they just had dragged in and if I want first dibs.
I did this because there was no internet to look up anything on, just books, what your trusted buddy did, and what your head had learned. That’s how you flippin learned because everybody else ether lied or didn’t know WTF they were doing.
Swap a cam out on the first of the month and by months end, I was picking up the new cam. Ran MP, Comps, Cranes, blue box specials with pink fuckin roses on it!
Then start with the dual planes and go to the single planes while testing every carb in house from stock to modified. Change the headers out. Hangs the mufflers out. When I’d run through everything I had on line to change out, it was the end of the month again, time to pick up the new cam.
I’ve run cams on LSA’s from 114 down to 106 from 218@050 to the bottom of the page listing for one reason, just because it’s there.
That’s what I did for years on an obsession level.
The brain never stopped thinking on the next experiment. The next cam. What new thing came out.
This I did for years and consistently.
No
Oh yes! I can say what I did, yet again, but then again, as 273 pointed out… why would I bother. Seriously. Why would I bother?
It’s advantageous for me to STFU and let the internet decide what’s best even if in glaring light it goes against what actually works…. Or not.
I get a bunch of **** at car shows where I have a lot of young guns and newbies to the hobby tell me I have no idea what I’m doing and site internet garbage.
The more I think of it, it almost makes me want to go racing again. Start makin money off of the fools. After all, I have no ******* idea what I’m doing.
Excellent idea. Actually ******* brilliant idea.
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I'm not looking to discredit him, I'd be happy if his system works, I just haven't seem any glaring proof and the evidence against isn't concrete cause none of the dyno test are really setup to put his theory to the test, but what test that are on different lsa show little evidence being off a few degrees results in 30,40,50 etc.. lbs-ft loss.
Say Eg. If 108 is calculated as optimal then every degree in either direction should show huge loses, plus going wider than 108 is generally given that there will be loses so not much proof if 110/112 has less torque, but if going tighter than recommended like 104/106 don't lose torque but still gains is 108 optimal then?
So if 112 has least torque and 104 has most and the recommended 108 is in the middle is that really calculating optimal especially if the torque is less than 20 lbs-ft between each (104 vs 108 & 108 vs 112) and being 4 degrees off should be considered way off.
That video the guy's point was to prove DV and I'm saying none of the dyno test he showed gave any real proof, to me it put doubt on it.
I have a functioning brain and able to process information.
That's how I see lot of the **** you say
This comment vs….
This comment is extremely hypocritical.
But what you said, absolutely shows. And it’s amazing how you still get it wrong. And then, you make funny comments against me? You’ve got to be kidding me!?
Your insane, hard to keep up with your mood swings lol.
OK fellas! Geez!
It will be fine. How many thousands of 340's left the factory with that cam? Back then they made cams that were low lift and big duration and LSA. Those cams were easy on valve train and didn't need any tricks for big lift and clearances.
I forgot to put a smilie....my post was tongue in cheek. Most street engines aren't designed for peak hp/tq as there are other considerations.
Fixed.I guess my stock 340 build is going to suck with my '68 4 speed cam (114 LSA installed at 112)
I know your just playing around, but fyi DV formula would recommend 109 lsa with the idea of running about 10* less cam timing.
DV intent is to give more under the curve power. Eg. Everyone builds a 408 to make 500 lbs-ft but it's possible to do with a well built 360 not that many of us are gonna get that so generally easier to make less efficient power.
Close enough.
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