Hi Iam a 15 years old and my dad got me a 67 dart to build as my first car it’s going to be a small block plum crazy purple with a white top and white interior. I have taken it all down to the chassis and am about to get a rotisserie to put it on.
1967 dart 270 hodge podge
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Congrats! You will learn a lot of various skills as you progress. Most things I have learned have been through mistakes, but at least I tried and learned. Keep us posted on the progress.
I have a few questions I need help with before it goes to paint get blasted. Can anyone help me with the driver side apron pics. Mine has holes everywhere and I can’t find what goes there factory and would like to weld up what holes aren’t going to be used before I put it in primer. Also it was an auto car I think but it has 4sp pedals in it. My dad has a 4sp and bell housing he said I can have or would it be easier to keep it auto? Someone did a crappy job I think trying to convert it lol.
Professor Fate
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You're in for a lot of fun! We're here to help when you need it.
You're in for a lot of fun! We're here to help when you need it.
Professor Fate
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Google up some images of "1967 Dart engine bay" and you'll get a lot of pics to help.
But remember, those electronic ignition components in your pic weren't stock '67- so look for some pics from later model Darts to assist with locating them in your car, if you retain them. Basically all you had on the left fender apron from the factory is the washer bottle, holes for wiring harness straps, battery tray and hold downs, and the fender tag.
Plymouth 65
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Welcome from Michigan the Motor City! Looks like a solid start. Don't get discouraged, restoring a car is a time consuming task. You will learn a ton and develop skills that will forever be to your benefit. 65'
As expected, your 50yr old car has had modifications for unknown reasons. When building a car it is best to have a clear vision of what you want to end up with. Will it be a restoration, a cruiser, a hot rod, or something in between? Build it your way, have fun, but have your end goal in mind. The extra holes in your inner fender are for mounting the ignition resistor, voltage regulator and ignition ECU. These were upgrades added later and are not original the car originally. Your choice what to do with them. The holes for the original components are in the firewall. However two holes would originally be there to mount the windshield washer bottle.
Treblig
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I love Plumb Crazy!! looks like it will be a cool build...........but is that a Jeep Commando in the background???
67Dart273
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None of the 3 electrical items in your photos, on the left fender apron, were factory. Don't get me wrong--if you are going to use factory breakerless ignition, and the later alternator / regulator (70/ later) then you will need to keep them. But there were no factory holes. The regulator and 2 terminal coil ballast originally went on the firewall.
67Dart273
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Just so you know, there are a number of things that make your 67 "one year only" and different from not only "every thing else" but the 68/ 9 "series" as well"
Obviously, no side marker lights or reflectors
Only year with reverse lights in bumper. 68/9 were in the tail lights
Tail light assemblies do not interchange, the buckets for 67 were slightly smaller
68/9 grills do not interchange as the headlight buckets are slightly inset towards the center compared to 68/9
I believe some of the internal door and window hardware is different in 67
If you have the original front crossmember "K member" that is a one year only idler arm and they are getting harder or at least more expensive to find. There are a couple/ three ways to deal with that.
Obviously, no side marker lights or reflectors
Only year with reverse lights in bumper. 68/9 were in the tail lights
Tail light assemblies do not interchange, the buckets for 67 were slightly smaller
68/9 grills do not interchange as the headlight buckets are slightly inset towards the center compared to 68/9
I believe some of the internal door and window hardware is different in 67
If you have the original front crossmember "K member" that is a one year only idler arm and they are getting harder or at least more expensive to find. There are a couple/ three ways to deal with that.
Just to save you some grief later- label and organize things as you disassemble. Ziplock bags are your friend.
Yes it’s my dads tube chassis unimog diffs 4 wheel steer 360 with a 518 and a 4sp atlas tcase
what are the options for the k member? I have one but how do I tell if it’s v8 member ? Also I was told I can swap grills and taillights ?? Thought 67-69 where all the same ? It’s not going to be original a hot rod for sure. Can you use the 68-69 with modifications or is it better to find 67?
67Dart273
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Folks have done modifications to use later grills, you must remove the headlight buckets and move them (drill/ grind out the spot welds), for tail lights modify the openings in the quarters, the K members you have several options
If you need to change it because you are say, going from 6 to V8, you can use either 68--72, or 73/ later
68-72 uses the same "pillow" engine mounts as 67, and the only real difference is the 68-72 idler arm is way more available The mounting bracket is different. You could also modify the 67 K to tak the 68/ later idler arm, but you need to find an example K member and build a "jig" to properly locate it
For the steering, you have a "break" at 72-73. You must group 68-72 together and use the matching center link, idler arm, and pitman arm to fit the steering box. The power steering box pitman arm shaft changed spline sizes 73/ later That is, those four parts must all fit.
Or you can do the same thing and use those 4 parts grouped in the 73/ later group. Either group will fit either K member that is, 68-72 or 73 to 76.
73 and later K members used "spool" engine mounts. Some guys think they are better, some thing they are worse.
If you need to change it because you are say, going from 6 to V8, you can use either 68--72, or 73/ later
68-72 uses the same "pillow" engine mounts as 67, and the only real difference is the 68-72 idler arm is way more available The mounting bracket is different. You could also modify the 67 K to tak the 68/ later idler arm, but you need to find an example K member and build a "jig" to properly locate it
For the steering, you have a "break" at 72-73. You must group 68-72 together and use the matching center link, idler arm, and pitman arm to fit the steering box. The power steering box pitman arm shaft changed spline sizes 73/ later That is, those four parts must all fit.
Or you can do the same thing and use those 4 parts grouped in the 73/ later group. Either group will fit either K member that is, 68-72 or 73 to 76.
73 and later K members used "spool" engine mounts. Some guys think they are better, some thing they are worse.
Professor Fate
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Pretty sure '67 and '68 can be switched (other than the lack of side marker lights on the '67). But '69 is definitely different, both in the headlight location and in the part of the fender that bolts to the radiator yoke (and the marker light, again).
And as 67Dart273 already stated, the '67s had the reverse lights mounted in the bumper, '68/9 were integral to the taillight.
Hey guys can someone help me with this I found a front end out of a 70 e body with brakes and control arms. I need this stuff for my project will this stuff bolt to my 67 crossmember ? It has disc brakes and everything. I’m assuming tie crossmember won’t work.
Professor Fate
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The only thing you might be able to use are the spindles, calipers and rotors. None of the other stuff will work on an A body.
You will need to locate a set of '73 and newer A body "big ball joint" upper control arms to use those spindles, your existing lower control arms will work.
Lots of good info on brake parts interchangeability in the bigblockdart.com tech archive.
Tech Index (archive.org)
You will need to locate a set of '73 and newer A body "big ball joint" upper control arms to use those spindles, your existing lower control arms will work.
Lots of good info on brake parts interchangeability in the bigblockdart.com tech archive.
Tech Index (archive.org)
Thank you. You guys are a lot of help
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