340 cam in a 318

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Formula's, mathematics, can't because of..... shouldn't because of.... you'll be sorry on top of.....

wouldn't trade any calculations for first hand experience. some of us that have DONE it have testified. jury is in favor :)
Well, I calculate piston to valve clearance.
Do you just bolt everything on and only realize you have an issue when you bend valves?
 
Well, I calculate piston to valve clearance.
Do you just bolt everything on and only realize you have an issue when you bend valves?
never bent a valve in my life....
Question was "340 cam in a 318" from the OP. I gave real, life experienced opinion.
 
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Yeah, I guess you never would when your running 8.1 comp and .420 lift.
 
LOL, It's a bit small for what I do..
ok, thanks.

Again, Dan, folks with real life testimonies from actually doing the swap have given positive feedback. I say if you have a good 340 cam and are on a budget, install it. Good Luck :)
 
New 69 318 4 speed fastback. 68 340 4speed cam, don't remember the part #. Mallory ignition, Hooker headers with straight thru mufflers, 391 gears and rejetted the 2 barrel. Ran in mid 14's in L (not quite) stock. A blast to drive and even after 50 years I wish I could get it back.
 
I have a question about putting a 340 cam in a 318. From what I've found out, the 340 cam has a ivc point of 69* and this brings down the dcr to like 6.63:1 ( 18 psi lower cylinder pressure than a stock 318 cam ). Wouldn't this hurt performance rather than help? I based this on a 1973 318 with a 8.6:1 cr. Did I figure something wrong or have the wrong information?
AJ Foyt ran a 318 in his indy car producing 500 HP research his motor.
 
I have a question about putting a 340 cam in a 318. From what I've found out, the 340 cam has a ivc point of 69* and this brings down the dcr to like 6.63:1 ( 18 psi lower cylinder pressure than a stock 318 cam ). Wouldn't this hurt performance rather than help? I based this on a 1973 318 with a 8.6:1 cr. Did I figure something wrong or have the wrong information?
A lot of things to consider.
When emissions BS came about, the big 3 began using different cam profiles in their bread and butter "economy" engines. I forget the Mopar specs, but they all reduced intake lift and increased the duration. The lift at the valve was about 0.050" less. That impeded intake flow past the valve, vaccum developed in the cylinder was not seen in the intake manifold and economy was terrible. '73 and '74 were bad as the small displacement engines had to meet more stringent emissions. The screwed in the hoop solution was to jet the carburretors rich, and all the fuel could not burn in the cylinders as it ran out of O2. An air injection system was installed to introduce fressh air to the exhaust ports. Of course real hot exhaust would then burn the rest of the fuel in the exhaust manifolds. Those suckers got hot.
I bought a 1982 Blazer with the 305 4 barrel and first year 700R4. Drivability sucked **** through a tube. On the hwy it shift cycled into and out of OD unless you had a strong tail wind or were going down hill. Now we need not be talking a steep grade, only that if you had a pee, it would run down the way you came from. I got looking in the TRW cam catalogue and found out about the reduced lift. Chevy for the 305HO installed the same cam the 350 used. They also used heads with larger intake valves and smaller head chamber volumes. World of difference. I also noted that Ford and Mopar did the same. When Ford came out with the 5.0L HO, it used the 351 cam and firing order. By then the 302 and 351 were using the same heads. I purchased a cam labled as a RV cam that the guy said was too much for a 305. Worked fabulously. Still had some shift cycling but greatly reduced. Fuel economy went from 15MPG IMP to 19MPG IMP.
So IMHO, install the 340 cam with new lifters. If the 318 has a 2 barrel carb and money is a bit tight, run it that way until you can afford a 4 barrel.manifold and carb.
In automotives class in high school, one of the guys had a 58 Vette he inherited from his brother who died in Vietnam. He had obtained a pair of ported fuellie heads that they drilled and rollpinned to prevent the studs pulling. Long time before commonly available screwin studs. Bored the 283 for 327 pistons. This was commonly referred to as a 301, but bore and stroke were the same as the then just out Z28 302. He got a fairly aggressive cam, and for breakin put a 2 barrel intake on it. Restricted intake flow a bit to prevent getting too sporty during breakin. The pistons were 11:1, so still fairly quick. After breakin and all the parts liked eachother, he installed a tri-power intake.
 
318 heads suck making the 340 cam moot in a LA318 wit h LA 318 heads. I mean i suppose it would sound good and scare a teenage girl but it wont be that fast...it will fall on its face early in the rpm band...say at 5000 -5500 by all means do it and tell us what the end result is...
 
318 heads suck making the 340 cam moot in a LA318 wit h LA 318 heads. I mean i suppose it would sound good and scare a teenage girl but it wont be that fast...it will fall on its face early in the rpm band...say at 5000 -5500 by all means do it and tell us what the end result is...
Obviously u have never tried this combination. Kim
 
Obviously...:lol: But I do know the 318 LA head suck if that's what the OP is talking about. I have found on here when people say 318 they really aren't talking about a stock LA 318..well maybe the block. LOL! So to me the ops post as I read it means taking a 340 cam and installing it in an engine where everything else is LA 318. If he's talking magnum heads etc. or 340 heads etc. then things change do they not? Yes I have ran a cam and 4 barrel on a stock 318 and it fell on its face at about 5500 with 4 speed and 391s I try to not be full of **** but since you called me out I figured id elaborate. I believe I did reply to the OP "go ahead and do it let us know how it goes..." I wasn't against it in any way I have 340s so I don't dick around with 318s much. But that doesn't mean I never have...dicked around with a 318. I wont however go to too much trouble converting one to a 340, Id buy a magnum before all that .
 
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Obviously...:lol: But I do know the 318 LA head suck if that's what the OP is talking about. I have found on here when people say 318 they really aren't talking about a stock LA 318..well maybe the block. LOL! So to me the ops post as I read it means taking a 340 cam and installing it in an engine where everything else is LA 318. If he's talking magnum heads etc. or 340 heads etc. then things change do they not? Yes I have ran a cam and 4 barrel on a stock 318 and it fell on its face at about 5500 with 4 speed and 391s I try to not be full of **** but since you called me out I figured id elaborate. I believe I did reply to the OP "go ahead and do it let us know how it goes..." I wasn't against it in any way I have 340s so I don't dick around with 318s much. But that doesn't mean I never have...dicked around with a 318. I wont however go to too much trouble converting one to a 340, Id buy a magnum before all that .
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There's always a lot of 318 cam threads when all of a sudden it has a 4 barrel and intake, headers, and some 340 or aluminum heads. Not the same as sliding a 340 cam into your stock 318-2 barrel with single exhaust. :lol::lol:
 
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There's always a lot of 318 cam threads when all of a sudden it has a 4 barrel and intake, headers, and some 340 or aluminum heads. Not the same as sliding a 340 cam into your stock 318-2 barrel with single exhaust. :lol::lol:
I just might do this: I can pull the dual quads off my 318, and bolt on an original 2bbl and intake. The cam in it is a little hotter than a 340 cam, and the car does not have headers and still has the original torque converter and now 2.94 gears. Perhaps I can take it to the strip and see how much slower it runs than an original 318 2bbl Duster??? LOL
 
I just might do this: I can pull the dual quads off my 318, and bolt on an original 2bbl and intake. The cam in it is a little hotter than a 340 cam, and the car does not have headers and still has the original torque converter and now 2.94 gears. Perhaps I can take it to the strip and see how much slower it runs than an original 318 2bbl Duster??? LOL
I'm pretty sure I'll do this... ^^ and I'm pretty sure the car will go faster than any factory stock 318 2bbl Duster. I firmly believe if you are going to install a 340 cam in a 318, a 4bbl and dual exhaust should by all means be part of the plan. But I'm confident that it would outperform the stock 318 cam if it was left as a 2bbl.
 
I'm pretty sure I'll do this... ^^ and I'm pretty sure the car will go faster than any factory stock 318 2bbl Duster. I firmly believe if you are going to install a 340 cam in a 318, a 4bbl and dual exhaust should by all means be part of the plan. But I'm confident that it would outperform the stock 318 cam if it was left as a 2bbl.
As it should be faster. It will probably be faster without a 4 barrel/intake and dual exhaust. It might not be faster if installed without the carb/intake/exhaust addition. And along those lines, the 4 barrel/intake/dual exhaust may be faster then a 340 cam alone on a stock teen . It sounds like you have a lot of videos to make and testing to be done. :poke::lol::lol:
 
I had read somewhere that the stock LA 318 cam is pretty good in that application, you could just swap the intake and put a 4 barrel on it and it would run well.

of course I had gotten rid of my stock 318 cam long before I read that LOL!
 
As it should be faster. It will probably be faster without a 4 barrel/intake and dual exhaust. It might not be faster if installed without the carb/intake/exhaust addition. And along those lines, the 4 barrel/intake/dual exhaust may be faster then a 340 cam alone on a stock teen . It sounds like you have a lot of videos to make and testing to be done. :poke::lol::lol:
LOL... but what I'm saying is if I put a 2bbl back on my 318 with it's current cam, it would be about the same as putting a 340 cam in a 318 2bbl. Seems some think that putting a 340 cam in a 318 2bbl will slow it up. I'd like to see if it does.... :)
 
LOL... but what I'm saying is if I put a 2bbl back on my 318 with it's current cam, it would be about the same as putting a 340 cam in a 318 2bbl. Seems some think that putting a 340 cam in a 318 2bbl will slow it up. I'd like to see if it does.... :)
Yep. Which 340 cam are you using?
 
Yep. Which 340 cam are you using?
It's a 272/.455 cam, a little hotter than a factory 340 cam. So If I go back to a 2bbl, and the car is a little faster in 2bbl form than a stock 318 2bbl Duster, then that pretty much proves that you can add a cam, like a 340 cam, to a 318 2bbl and it will still add performance.
 
At what rpm? How about needing a converter and/or rear gears to make it work. (318 with a 340 cam and nothing else) Asking for a friend.
:lol::lol: Another 318 cam thread. Here we go again.

I don't have enough guts to try. For me it's a lot of work if it doesn't work good. Which 340 cam? I think I am going to bow out and just watch along. This would be a good You Tube series to do. A stock teen with a 2 barrel and put a 340 spec cam in it. See what it does.
I think my car fits the bill of these two quotes perfectly. Stock converter, 2.94 gears, but 272/.455 cam. Will it be like any other 318 2bbl ??? Slower??? Slightly faster??
 
It's a 272/.455 cam, a little hotter than a factory 340 cam. So If I go back to a 2bbl, and the car is a little faster in 2bbl form than a stock 318 2bbl Duster, then that pretty much proves that you can add a cam, like a 340 cam, to a 318 2bbl and it will still add performance.
That would be a good test. There sure seems to be a lot if negativity about a 318 not being able to handle a 340 cam. No bottom end and at least a converter to make it work. Is it really that big of a pooch from say idle to 3500 rpm or is it just nobody knows how to tune a 2 barrel and distributor so the engine won't jump out from under the hood when shifting from park to drive? 340 cams sure don't sound that radical.
 
I’ve seen 1 318 slow down. My friend took his Challenger to a Speed Shop. Added headers and dual exhaust. Street Hemi grind cam. 2.02 X heads LD340 intake and a 625 Carter afb. Spring kit in the distributor. It had 3.23 gears. Traction bars. 2bbl form it ran 16.1. With all the mods it ran 17.4. This was in the late 70s. Kim
 
Its more tin the heads, stock LA 318 heads wont do you any good the valves will float with the stock valve springs, the ports are restrictive etc. even if you rev it to 6 000 RPM, the springs cant handle it... now a combination of cam and heads well that would work...:) I have run this cam in my stock LA 318 with a 4 Barrel Holley it is still an affordable kit from Summit. Actually I still have one in my 318 but that engine is stiing in the corner, I have the same cam in a 340 with flat top pistons, and am going to run it in another 340 . street applications only not a racer. I run my Fox body at the track.

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I’ve seen 1 318 slow down. My friend took his Challenger to a Speed Shop. Added headers and dual exhaust. Street Hemi grind cam. 2.02 X heads LD340 intake and a 625 Carter afb. Spring kit in the distributor. It had 3.23 gears. Traction bars. 2bbl form it ran 16.1. With all the mods it ran 17.4. This was in the late 70s. Kim
Was that a traction issue, or a tuning issue? Sounds like something was amiss!
 
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