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Hello fellow experts,
I'm sorry I haven't been on much lately as I had spinal surgery and I'm slowly coming along. It's been n bridal a whole month and with no pain killers lol

Ok my question du jour is if anyone can n tell me if the 4 speed mechanism ( for my bayonet) shifter is what?
Do different models come with it.
The car I bought was a 69 A body Barracuda and was made into a 4 speed, I think. Tie is why I'm asking
I believe I need to change it any hero will be greatly appreciated.
MAPS
 
after reading that, you sure no painkillers?

having difficulty parsing the message. but i think you're asking if the shifter mechanism is specific only to A-bodies or the bayonet style handle? and what replaces it because you think that yours needs replacement?
 
The bayonet was used from 68-71. There really is no major difference in any of the 68 up A-Body Hurst shifters other than how the handle is attached. They all use the same linkage. The same shifters were used in B-Bodies in 68 and 69 and later in the O/D trucks and vans. If what you have fits and works you are good to go.
 
66fs said:
The bayonet was used from 68-71. There really is no major difference in any of the 68 up A-Body Hurst shifters other than how the handle is attached. They all use the same linkage. The same shifters were used in B-Bodies in 68 and 69 and later in the O/D trucks and vans. If what you have fits and works you are good to go.
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For clarification, '68 A bodies didn't use Hurst. It was an Inland shifter.
 
Maps has a language barrier also sometimes, no offense to Maps. He's a Francophone.
Sorry to read of the surgery, get well!
 
First and foremost,
Junky Yard Hero.
Please don't allow my addressing your handle in any way nor misinterpreted for your possible interests in "pain killers" as you did so elegantly alluded on my behalf on account of the grammar and wrong words all together.
Suffice to say just like I wouldn't call myself "Junky..Millionaire Mopar Elite collector... or Junky anything" Then again, to each his own.
I have made mention on this a cpl of times thru the yrs as I have 3 tablets and my cell phone when I correspond accordingly with the nice folk here but one Apple tablet has a cpl of cracks and I don't actually see what's spelled until I get to post it and as mentioned my pain is somewhat incongruous with my surroundings at said times. So it's not my main concern at times.
Regardless. I feel you did get the nucleus of my post and I'm glad a few others have replied, helpfully.

As for my good and fellow comrade Steve (4 spd ragtop) made a simple but honest mistake ɓy implying I am a francophone... or that English was not my language of choice. Steve is a gentleman.

Lastly, if anyone is 100 % sure which mechanism is used with my bayonet shifter that I bought from the great Brewers shop I'd really appreciate it.
After all this, I just realized that Brewers should have been the man I should have called originally. My bad there.

May you all have a happy Easter and for those of us who are still waiting for the weather to warm up to take out our cars, Godspeed.
 
66fs said:
The bayonet was used from 68-71. There really is no major difference in any of the 68 up A-Body Hurst shifters other than how the handle is attached. They all use the same linkage. The same shifters were used in B-Bodies in 68 and 69 and later in the O/D trucks and vans. If what you have fits and works you are good to go.
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I need to change it, this is why I'm looking for the info.
Thanks.
 
A56 said:
For clarification, '68 A bodies didn't use Hurst. It was an Inland shifter.
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Yes, I'm aware of that, that they were actually changed mid season if I'm not mistaken.
I have a 69 with the console..
Maps
 
So I started with a bayonet shifter and bought the reproduction console handle from Brewers. I also bought this to convert my shifter mechanism. Brewer's Performance - Mopar A833 4-Speed Transmission and Component Specialists. That along with the reinforcement plate worked perfectly for me.

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MAPS said:
I need to know which shifter mechanism I need. The part the shifter handle goes in.
Thanks.
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You can use either with the right handle. Since you have an Bayonet mechanism now, all you need is the A-Body Bayonet handle for a console.
 
Is this what you have?????
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Hurst OEM 4 Speed Shifter Mechanism Mopar 1963-76 A, 1966-1969 B Body

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MAPS said:
That's the shifter I have now but it's used as a bayonet.. but I also bought the pieces to show me to screw it into the 3 holes
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This statement is a bit confusing. Do you have the shifter pictured, or do you the similar version with a bayonet mount? I'm not sure what "the pieces to show me to screw it into the three holes" means, but I assume you mean the plate that goes between the shifter mechanism and the transmission. Pictures of what you currently have would greatly help us determine what exactly you need.

Based on what I've read and assumed, I think @Daves69 linked to the mechanism you need. They are pretty common shifters, as the same unit was used in 1975 and newer applications including A833OD trucks. That version has a grease fitting on the side. Here's a picture of one set up on an overdrive transmission for my 1968 Valiant:

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The linkage for third and fourth gears in that photo are different than what one would find on a close-ratio transmission.
 
Well a pic of "something" would surely help. If you have a bayonet handle, you need a bayonet shifter box, simple.as that. Call brewers they will get you fixed up?
Do they even make bayonet handles anymore?
 
Hi Gents.
Ok let me clarify myself.
From what I know.
The car came restored and with that being a 4 speed car.
I was then told by the seller that the car was originally a console car but he couldn't find the shifter that went with the console of he did get one.
So I went and bought a console from someone I knew and then bought the shifter handle from Brewers.
When the handle got here I was told by the mechanic it was for a bolt on but it would be ok.
They installed it and all was well.
Last year I bought 2 different things that Brewers sells that will allow you to screw your bayonet shifter on to this small metal adapter so you can put in the shifter mechanism as a bolt on (Which I said the 3 holes, I meant to write it had 2 holes I screw the shifter to) Regardless I have not used these parts yet.
The issue I have now is I want to
buy a new mechanism and I just wanted to know exactly which one is on my car.
Its a 1969 A Body Barracuda, 4 speed console car. As well, I'm not sure if the mechanism changes with console or without
Plus I will need to change the linkages as well I was told, as they are used. Are there any other things I may need.
I drive the car as is with really no problems but the shifter feels real loose and this is why I want to change the mechanism part the handle sits in.
Any help with be appreciated
MAPS

P.S. This is the part im asking about.... Dave, NoCar thank you for letting me use your pic.

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This is not rocket science. Since you have a bolt on handle, buy a rebuilt A-Body bolt on mechanism. If your linkage works, you don't need to replace it. The mechanisms are the same other than the handle interface (Bayonet or Bolt on). If you want the "correct" for the year (69) then that would be the Bayonet style. Then you would need both the handle and a rebuilt mechanism. No problem with used linkage, just get new clips and washers unless something is very worn.
 
A bolt on handle mechanism............
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HURST Comp Plus 4 Speed Replacement Shifter for OEM MOPAR Applications listed

HURST Comp Plus 4 Speed Replacement Shifter for OEM MOPAR Applications listed For sale is a NEW HURST Comp Plus replacement mechanism with adapter bushings for use in Original Factory Equipped 1966-1969 Dodge, Plymouth A and B Body Cars. Includes a new HURST 3914076 Comp Plus Mechanism and...
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Or just get this from Brewer and rebuild your existing shifter into one that uses a bolt on handle.

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If you don't need to rebuild the shifter, you can get just the piece the handle bolts to for $20.

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