440 sitting crooked?

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Got the 440 mounted up and it’s a little crooked. Both engine mounts are about in the only spot they can go with still having access to both the underside nuts. Schumacher headers are touching the power steering gear box. Not really anywhere for the motor to straighten out. Just wondering if this is normal?

69 Dart
Original 273 k frame
Schumacher mounts
Schumacher headers
727

Everything dropped right in, didn’t have to force anything, including trans cross member mount.

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I would put a large washer or two under the passenger's side mount.
 
standup303 said:
Got the 440 mounted up and it’s a little crooked. Both engine mounts are about in the only spot they can go with still having access to both the underside nuts. Schumacher headers are touching the power steering gear box. Not really anywhere for the motor to straighten out. Just wondering if this is normal?

69 Dart
Original 273 k frame
Schumacher mounts
Schumacher headers
727

Everything dropped right in, didn’t have to force anything, including trans cross member mount.

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I think the Middle Hole in the Core-Supprt is there to Center-Line the Engine... Correct?

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schumacher instructions include a table that shows engine placement measurements. It is offset by 1.25".

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If the rear transmission crossmember is in alignment,,,,then you know that is right .
The front should measure like the Schumacher instructions read ,,or at least in the ballpark .

These engines are offset to the passenger side from the factory.
They all vary a little bit,,,,,but it should be fairly close.

Use the C measurement like the sheet reads,,,,from your pic that should be the easiest to check .

Tommy
 
Easy peasy. The frame rails are the same distance apart from the transmission cross member all the way to the front, right? Then measure from the center of the transmission output shaft to each frame rail and match up the center line of the crankshaft with the frame rails in the front.
 
standup303 said:
I feel the front of the engine could go 1”-1.5” towards the driver’s side.
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wrong , on a big block they recommend 1 3/8'' toward the pass side .
That's where my 440/505 sets with 2'' headers in a small 68 barracuda engine bay , everything clears , "but not by much "........jfyi
 
The off set is 1 1/4 . We have a long fixture that slides through the timing cover and out of the tailshaft of the trans to set pinion angle . Proper location of the engine side to side is important for drive shaft alignment. Use thicker mount bisquets if needed. slant six or 80's truck

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standup303 said:
Got the 440 mounted up and it’s a little crooked. Both engine mounts are about in the only spot they can go with still having access to both the underside nuts. Schumacher headers are touching the power steering gear box. Not really anywhere for the motor to straighten out. Just wondering if this is normal?

69 Dart
Original 273 k frame
Schumacher mounts
Schumacher headers
727

Everything dropped right in, didn’t have to force anything, including trans cross member mount.

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Mopar engines are not centered in the car. Is that what you're getting at?
 
A buddies 440 in a 66 Satellite - his carb has site glass @ the 4 corners & the pass side level always higher than drive side - ??
 
toolmanmike said:
Mopar engines are not centered in the car. Is that what you're getting at?
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It looks to me like it's leanin a little to the passenger's side. That's why I recommended the washers under the mount. Maybe it's one of them there optomological illooshoonists.
 
Thanks all! Pulled some measurements based off the chart that was posted and I’m happy with it.
 
standup303 said:
Thanks all! Pulled some measurements based off the chart that was posted and I’m happy with it.
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Cool. Then you were talking about it being off center, which you found out is normal. Looks good too.
 
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