707 Hell Cat, what does it mean?

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So an 11 sec 2014 srt with an add on supercharger has to have a roll bar, but a 2015 hellcat running sub 11 does not? Genius. I guess in the NHRA some things are more important than driver safety.
 
well rusty you are right about the warranty sticker. and the max wedge engines to? but i think the 68 HEMI CUDA was not street legal was cause of the emissions. dont for get that was a LONG time ago. some times it even hurts my head to think back that far.
 
My buddy was just told that he could get one at a 1000.00 over sticker.
He buys his company trucks & just bought his wife a new Durango from this dealer.
The dealer told him he would only charge him a thousand over.
Got to think that is not a bad deal.
 
MTmopars said:
So an 11 sec 2014 srt with an add on supercharger has to have a roll bar, but a 2015 hellcat running sub 11 does not? Genius. I guess in the NHRA some things are more important than driver safety.
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here ya go...

http://www.lsxtv.com/news/nhra-amends-roll-barcage-rules-for-08-later-street-vehicles/




The NHRA’s annual round of rule amendments to be included in the 2013 rulebook include a wide range of changes across every category in the sport, but one in particular is of rather great significance to street legal drag racers and the enthusiast community as a whole.

Recognizing the safety-inspired design and construction of today’s late model vehicles, the NHRA has actually rescinded its previous guidelines for street vehicles running 9.99 to 11.49 that required the use of a roll cage or roll bar, now permitting unaltered, 2008 and later model hard top vehicles to compete as they come from the factory without the addition of said roll bar/cage. The amendment, as its phrased in the NHRA’s 2012 to 2013 amendment document states:

NHRA DRAGS: STREET LEGAL STYLE PRESENTED BY AAA (Page xiv) (5th paragraph)
Additionally Requirements and specifications for Street Legal are the same as those for the Summit Racing Series with the following exception: Unaltered 2008 OEM model year and newer production cars running slower than 9.99 and 135 mph do not have to meet the requirements and specifications for the Summit Racing Series except for the following: Convertibles and T-tops must meet Summit Racing Series Roll Bar and Roll Cage requirements, All drivers must meet the Summit Racing Series Helmet and Protective Clothing requirements.”

This amendment is in fact a huge boon to the enthusiast community that’s been driven away from organized racing at NHRA member tracks in the past due to the costs of making their vehicles legal to compete. Cars like the 2013 GT500 Mustang and the Corvette ZR1 are capable of surpassing the 11.50 mark right off the showroom floor. We’ve yet to conclude the exact meaning behind the wording “unaltered” in the text and whether that refers to the vehicle frame or the existence of power adders and the iike.

These racers who previously had to slow their vehicles down or not show up at a track at all are now able to compete without the modifying their expensive factory cars, and regardless of who this new rule applies to and who it doesn’t, it certainly opens some racers up to visit a race track again.
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MTmoJurassic said:
So an 11 sec 2014 srt with an add on supercharger has to have a roll bar, but a 2015 hellcat running sub 11 does not? Genius. I guess in the NHRA some things are more important than driver safety.
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I hear ya. Have you ever been in a discussion with someone who runs in a "stock" class in the NHRA? Nothing makes sense!
 
moe7404 said:
well rusty you are right about the warranty sticker. and the max wedge engines to? but i think the 68 HEMI CUDA was not street legal was cause of the emissions. dont for get that was a LONG time ago. some times it even hurts my head to think back that far.
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i agree i don't think the 68 hemi darts were street legal..
 

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RustyRatRod said:
Although others may not, I agree with your assessment. Kitty and I were in town today. We saw a new Challenger R/T getting ready to pull out of a parking place. We pulled in a couple of spaces down. It was a girl and she was getting on her phone so she was still in the car. She busted it off and we heard. Nothing. She pulled out and we heard. Nothing. She drove by and all we could hear were the tires on the asphalt, even when the back of the car went past. No exhaust note at all. Pitiful. We would have heard and felt a 70 R/T crank up and drive by. The new cars may well be faster and more efficient, but they are missing a lot IMO to be called a muscle car.
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it doesn't help that they essentially have 2 mufflers per bank and the cat on each bank. Take all those off and I bet you could hear it then! Lol
 
That tag simply says it was not intended for street use. It does not say is was not legal. As long as it had lights and signals, ain't much they could do about it.
 
RustyRatRod said:
That tag simply says it was not intended for street use. It does not say is was not legal. As long as it had lights and signals, ain't much they could do about it.
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It also states that it has ZERO warranty! It was a drag car. A bad *** one at that. But not a street legal car. Just like the new COPO camaro. Anything can be driven on the street, just as long as you dont get caught!
 
The COPO cars were street legal, just as the 68 SS cars.
 
Ok. I stand corrected. I found where the 68 SS cars were actually not DOT approved. Had to be from the Lexan windows. But the COPO cars were DOT approved. They had glass. Regardless, we all know real SS cars hit the street back in the day.
 
RustyRatRod said:
Ok. I stand corrected. I found where the 68 SS cars were actually not DOT approved. Had to be from the Lexan windows. But the COPO cars were DOT approved. They had glass. Regardless, we all know real SS cars hit the street back in the day.
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Rusty.... believe whatever helps you sleep at night man.
 
BadAss71 said:
Rusty.... believe whatever helps you sleep at night man.
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I don't have to "believe" it. I KNOW about the COPO cars because I know somebody that had one in Macon when I was in school.
 
MoparDaddy said:
it doesn't help that they essentially have 2 mufflers per bank and the cat on each bank. Take all those off and I bet you could hear it then! Lol
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Best to leave it alone. Guys have modified the exhaust on current Challengers and at 1600 RPM on the highway the drone will make you crazy.
 
I saw the same episode of the flathead rebuild, I liked the results, that motor had a COOL factor. For me, that's what I like about vintage Mopars. The other day I was fueling up the wife's Jeep, saw a newer challenger, asked the guy how he liked it. He said he loved it, waited 4 years to get it (it was a 2010) because they only built 833 in that color with the transmission that it had. I guess that makes it rare, and it worked for him, not for me though, not nearly as cool as everything I see here on FABO!!!
 
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