If I added subframe ties I wouldn't stop there. Box in those Torque Boxes.
It is surprising how light th 65 and older B bodies are.my 62's is like it's made out of tin foil.. prolly why they weight nothing
yeah, my title lists 3025, with a poly and that 80# intake.. curious with the LA and alum heads/intake...It is surprising how light th 65 and older B bodies are.
Subframe connectors are great. I don't know that I would suggest putting on the USCT ones unless you're either a masochist or have the car totally blown apart.
I have the hotchkis ones and it really stiffened up the car. The door used to rattle on bumps and no longer did immediately after that. Plus you can install them in maybe 3-4 hrs and there isn't much fitting to them.
Huge difference.
I used USCT frame connectors and torque boxes.
We took our time and matched the floor to the cuts in the rails. Came out great and definitely stiffened up the car.
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That's a beauty right there.
I moved my emergency brake cable in board and ran custom brake and fuel lines inside of connectors. That way stuff aint zig zagging under there. But extra work making custom fuel and brake lines wasn't easy.ut the frame connectors in place and then cut and adjusted them to fit. One thing to remember is to cut access for the handbrake cable and the fuel lines before final weld.
Trust me, there's probably few people on here that did more projects that take patience and pre-planning - MPFI, 6-speed swap, Classic auto air, etc... this one just doesn't seem worth the extra effort compared to the other options.Its like anything in Hotrodding Goldduster, It takes some patience and some preplanning.
I agree that they install way easier without floors in the way but, I did mine after putting the new floors in.
We put the frame connectors in place and then cut and adjusted them to fit. One thing to remember is to cut access for the handbrake cable and the fuel lines before final weld.
For what its worth, USCT makes excellent products, service is great and price was ok.
Trust me, there's probably few people on here that did more projects that take patience and pre-planning - MPFI, 6-speed swap, Classic auto air, etc... this one just doesn't seem worth the extra effort compared to the other options.
Most of the other frame connectors you just pop the front parking brake cable out, drill a hole a little higher, put it back in and adjust and the rest fits fine, including the fuel and brake lines.
That little bit of extra vertical height and being tied directly to the floor is minor, and the USCT ones are open on the top. I don't know the wall thickness but what you're doing is resisting twist by having a 3D shape with that or a tube. The time for fitting for tolerances and doing about 8x as much welding for minimal to no gain. My friend and I were discussing this for his '71 Demon that he's going to be doing some rally cross with.
I have the USCT inner fender braces (which I might not be able to use due to the big tires) and the torque boxes. Just need to get around to putting them on.
Pure gold!
Yeah I tacked mine to floor like every half inch then ran panel bond along the seam to seal them. They are difficult to weld on unless your car is on a rotisserie. I had a new full floor so at least I was welding new metal to new metal. The appeal for me was the clean factory like look.Trust me, there's probably few people on here that did more projects that take patience and pre-planning - MPFI, 6-speed swap, Classic auto air, etc... this one just doesn't seem worth the extra effort compared to the other options.
Most of the other frame connectors you just pop the front parking brake cable out, drill a hole a little higher, put it back in and adjust and the rest fits fine, including the fuel and brake lines.
That little bit of extra vertical height and being tied directly to the floor is minor, and the USCT ones are open on the top. I don't know the wall thickness but what you're doing is resisting twist by having a 3D shape with that or a tube. The time for fitting for tolerances and doing about 8x as much welding for minimal to no gain. My friend and I were discussing this for his '71 Demon that he's going to be doing some rally cross with.
I have the USCT inner fender braces (which I might not be able to use due to the big tires) and the torque boxes. Just need to get around to putting them on.
Yeah I tacked mine to floor like every half inch then ran panel bond along the seam to seal them. They are difficult to weld on unless your car is on a rotisserie. I had a new full floor so at least I was welding new metal to new metal. The appeal for me was the clean factory like look.
US Car Tool connectors are 12 gauge. Factory frame rails are 14 gauge.
T56 Magnum close ratioBTW.. What trans are you using??
Other thing that surprised me is the US Car Tool connectors fit the new AMD full floor with very little grinding. Was not expecting that at all
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Yeah, I can jack up my very well used/high mileage car and the doors open and shut exactly the same and the gaps do not change whatsoever. One of these years I need to actually rebuild the hinges so it's right and fix the solidly welded striker but this car is in the 260-270k mile range as far as I know. Someone DD'd it until the year 2000 from new in NE Florida.Understand, all good.
I was looking for a particular look as well as functionality.
USCT fit the bill for me.
I've got a ton of patience so no big deal with taking more time to fit them tight to the floor pan. These connectors are heavy and very well built. Without them . jacking the car up towards the front or rear resulted in the doors not opening and closing properly. That disappeared after I installed them. I'm betting its the same with any frame connector. Torque boxes are a must and, USCT makes a very strong lower rad support that also helps rigidity.
BTW.. do you have any posts on here with your MPFI ??
Now that sounds interesting!!
Cheers!!
Yeah, I can jack up my very well used/high mileage car and the doors open and shut exactly the same and the gaps do not change whatsoever. One of these years I need to actually rebuild the hinges so it's right and fix the solidly welded striker but this car is in the 260-270k mile range as far as I know. Someone DD'd it until the year 2000 from new in NE Florida.
This is the MPFI topic from 2015. MS3 Pro Sequential Injection + Coil near plug conversion thread I haven't had any issues whatsover. This year I am doing the Power Tour Long Haul with it for the ultimate test.
Thanks. I’ve already received my frame connectors.If you are still looking , try this . Use the 2x3 inch tube and go to home depot and buy a profiler for cutting baseboard trim. Profile the bottom of your car and transfer it to the tube . There will be two spots that you have to add material from the cut offs but after you install them and under coat you wont notice any difference than the bought ones. Cost me $60 plus $15 for the frofile tool and zip discs