Any 10 second "All Throttle" 318's in door cars ?

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Rat Bastid said:
How much work do you want to do? I can tell you what you need. It’s not hard.

You can do it on iron heads IF you dont mind grinding. You need a single plane intake. At least 1.750 headers. 1.875 would be better.

You‘ll need to be in the 285ish cam range. No less than 11:1 compression.

You need to make power at 7k and shift at 7400-7500, so you need a GOOD oil pan with the biggest diameter pick up you can find. The Milodon Super Stock pan is the BEST choice. Good luck finding one. I have two. With the near impossible to find pick ups.

You should have pistons without tractor rings. 1/16 rings should be the thickest ring you should have and an .043 or 1 mm ring would be better.

The rest is getting the valve job right, the round stuff round and the straight stuff straight.
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Can you please share some pictures of this oil pan and the pickup? Maybe one could hand fabricate/ make a close copy of that stuff. I’d like to see what we’re workin with. :)
 
I'm still waiting for the wild 318 builds out there. I don't think there are very many making an HONEST 450 HP.
Maybe you could get IQ52 to share his 462hp 292 build. I guess there's always wishful thinking.
 
fishmens67 said:
I'm still waiting for the wild 318 builds out there. I don't think there are very many making an HONEST 450 HP.
Maybe you could get IQ52 to share his 462hp 292 build. I guess there's always wishful thinking.
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Yeah, I don't expect a lot. I think post 3 was a good'n. I fully understand most will grab a 360 because they are just as easy and cheap to grab, so grab the extra 42 cubes. But I'm just looking at what I have already, and "why not just see" what it can do.... ???? .... was more of my thought. 275 hp 318's are all over. If I do something with this 318, I want it to be something a little more radical. Other than that, I'm not very interested.
 
There was a local car that came up for sale that was supposedly running 11.20's @ 119 mph in a 4000 lbs sedan. Nothing exotic:

323ci small block w/360j heads victor junior manifold crane solid,crane gold rockers ,holley 750hp methanol carb,full foaling rods, je lumpy pistons, stud kit top n bottom etc etc.
it also comes with pace maker pipes port matched n heat wraped.

The trans is a 904 with all the goodies 4500 stall,deep pan.

Its all still in my car running. we est a good 500hp it ran a good solid 11.2@119 in my chrysler by chrysler 4 door in full trim, droped exhaust.
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Those pipes are 1.78 from memory and the cam was somewhere in 250's Comp was around 12-1

Heres another one from this forum

T67POWER said:
A buddy of mine runs a 318 in his scamp that has run a best of 10.82 @ 123.

Numbers matching block-crank-rods....cast crank.11.8 compression.
5000 grand convertor with trans brake.
2850 weight without driver.
Victor intake ported by Hughes.
.557 purple shaft solid.
308 casting heads---ported with 2.02 valves.
4.88 gears.
30 inch tall tire.
It's a street car also.
The best part is the short block is 15 years old and it's still running.
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Again nothing exotic.
 
318willrun said:
THat is a nice article. Yes, I also do not believe 7k+ is needed, as the article suggest.
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Bet you could do it with a well ported magnum head but would be easier with a trick flow or similar allowing milder cam choices.
 
318willrun said:
THat is a nice article. Yes, I also do not believe 7k+ is needed, as the article suggest.
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oh you'll need to shift at 7000 for sure. you stated 10.99, so I'm holding you to it. lol
There's no backing out now, 10.99 or bust. lol
 
fishmens67 said:
oh you'll need to shift at 7000 for sure. you stated 10.99, so I'm holding you to it. lol
There's no backing out now, 10.99 or bust. lol
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Hold yer Hoss !!!! I "asked" if there were 10.99 318's out there. I didn't say I was "building" a 10.99 318....

:lol:
 
318willrun said:
Hold yer Hoss !!!! I "asked" if there were 10.99 318's out there. I didn't say I was "building" a 10.99 318....

:lol:
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It's a tall order. Just to see what you may need, this one ran low 10's/9.90's. I have posted it before. Fairly serious to go that fast. 10.90's are a mile apart from 9.90's though. .030 318, W2's, Enderle Injected/methanol, 5500 stall, Glide, 4.88's in a 9", 2750 with driver.

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toolmanmike said:
It's a tall order. Just to see what you may need, this one ran low 10's/9.90's. I have posted it before. Fairly serious to go that fast. 10.90's are a mile apart from 9.90's though. .030 318, W2's, Enderle Injected/methanol, 5500 stall, Glide, 4.88's in a 9", 2750 with driver.

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Did you photo-chop PBR ??? LOL... What I was hoping to find is a few different combos of some fast 318's on throttle. So far, I'd say the article posted (an extension from post 3) was a gold mine. If I move forward AFTER the 5.2 for the "Change and Challenge" Duster, I will have no goal other than to make a rowdy feisty 318. If it flopped and ran a 13.0 in my Duster, so be it. IF it ran a 11.7, then yippee !!! :) IF it went 10.99, oh boy, would I have fun in THAT new thread :D :D :D
 
318willrun said:
Did you photo-chop PBR ??? LOL... What I was hoping to find is a few different combos of some fast 318's on throttle. So far, I'd say the article posted (an extension from post 3) was a gold mine. If I move forward AFTER the 5.2 for the "Change and Challenge" Duster, I will have no goal other than to make a rowdy feisty 318. If it flopped and ran a 13.0 in my Duster, so be it. IF it ran a 11.7, then yippee !!! :) IF it went 10.99, oh boy, would I have fun in THAT new thread :D :D :D
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I get the attraction. Just keep telling yourself, the difference between a Teen and a 340 is only 22 cu. in.
 
toolmanmike said:
I get the attraction. Just keep telling yourself, the difference between a Teen and a 340 is only 22 cu. in.
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yes. And what I really keep looking at is the parts I have just sitting..... and sitting, including the 318 on the stand. So I ask myself .... "why not" ??? Those parts are just as accessible on a 318 as they are scattered around. I could build it, run it, pull it, and borrow from it anytime I needed.
 
318willrun said:
Nice read, thanks !! That build is certainly "ball park" to what I am thinking.
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You know I am following along. I also have a roller Teen block, a forged 273 crank and a set of Speedmaster heads. I could probably make a fun little mill.
 
toolmanmike said:
You know I am following along. I also have a roller Teen block, a forged 273 crank and a set of Speedmaster heads. I could probably make a fun little mill.
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I have roller SM heads as you know, I have adjustable 273 rockers/shaft and push rods, the '85 318, I have air gap intakes but no single planes anymore. I think the crank and rods would live happily with ARP rod bolts, and the block is good. Motor is still basically a turn key on the stand minus carb/distributor. I have roller cam cores to have reground. Again, I don't think I'm "thousands" away at all from building this thing.
 
318willrun said:
Yeah, I don't expect a lot. I think post 3 was a good'n. I fully understand most will grab a 360 because they are just as easy and cheap to grab, so grab the extra 42 cubes. But I'm just looking at what I have already, and "why not just see" what it can do.... ???? .... was more of my thought. 275 hp 318's are all over. If I do something with this 318, I want it to be something a little more radical. Other than that, I'm not very interested.
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crosswinds knockoff dual plane on that 318 I ran as well.
I guess it was “ trick” but other than light rings and some weight taken off the crank, it used, relatively speaking, Walmart parts..lol
Lots of things that could really upgrade that piece quite a bit.
Sad too, the guy I sold it to I doubt extremely seriously has ever pressed the go pedal through the floorboard. He bought it because he had a white Duster in high school, and likes the show poodle lifestyle.
He insisted I drive it to his house and he would bring me back in his driver. Was scared of it.
I dropped the hammer immediately after pulling out of my business with him. I left him to rake out the passenger seat after he returned home
 
B3422w5 said:
crosswinds knockoff dual plane on that 318 I ran as well.
I guess it was “ trick” but other than light rings and some weight taken off the crank, it used, relatively speaking, Walmart parts..lol
Lots of things that could really upgrade that piece quite a bit.
Sad too, the guy I sold it to I doubt extremely seriously has ever pressed the go pedal through the floorboard. He bought it because he had a white Duster in high school, and likes the show poodle lifestyle.
He insisted I drive it to his house and he would bring me back in his driver. Was scared of it.
I dropped the hammer immediately after pulling out of my business with him. I left him to rake out the passenger seat after he returned home
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"Rake out the passenger seat" that's epic!
 
318willrun said:
Playing with the calculators..... Online calculator says 447 hp to run 10.99 in a 3000 lbs car ..... That would be with the ideal converter and gears, I get that.
So is the question 447 hp obtainable? That is 1.4 hp per cubic inch. I would think yes.
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High compression, good heads, a lot of cam and a really good carb and you can get the 447 hp. Guys are making 600 out of stock stroke 340s and 360s. That's workable
 
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toolmanmike said:
It's a tall order. Just to see what you may need, this one ran low 10's/9.90's. I have posted it before. Fairly serious to go that fast. 10.90's are a mile apart from 9.90's though. .030 318, W2's, Enderle Injected/methanol, 5500 stall, Glide, 4.88's in a 9", 2750 with driver.

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Gotta love that! That 440 small block is a work of art too!
 
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