His anger towards you should have been directed at his tech.
Pretty sure spline count is different, so, I'd have to say wrong. Mopar made the count different by one on the switch to L/U, so that wouldn't be possible by design, preventing mistakes.first i ever herd this,... any body comferm this right or wrong???
what i always thought....Pretty sure spline count is different, so, I'd have to say wrong. Mopar made the count different by one on the switch to L/U, so that wouldn't be possible by design, preventing mistakes.
I have build my own non lockup 904 from a late 80,s lockup.I purchased transmission and convertor from a person in the business, and its got 4 neutrals and leaking like a sieve. Less than excited to return it for more problems
I am near Sioux Falls,SD 57107 ..
I purchased transmission and convertor from a person in the business, and its got 4 neutrals and leaking like a sieve. Less than excited to return it for more problems
I am near Sioux Falls,SD 57107 ..
Not only the input shaft, but the forward clutch hub sealing diameter is unique to the lockup and non lockup. There is a difference sealing ring diameter.The lock up direct drum has five frictions from factory. If using thin plates, you can go six. The snag is you HAVE to use the pump from the lock up because it's "matched" to the deeper drum. In turn, you HAVE to use the input shaft from the lock up as well. If using later non lock up direct drum, you can squeeze five frictions in, and use the regular input. Now the real snag is there are NO thin discs available. ANYWHERE.
If they installed a non lockup forward clutchI read through this whole thread something doesnt ad up, 4 neutrals?
is there any chance the converter wasnt seated properly and during installation the lugs were broken off the pump gear?
not hard to figure out who the builder was after reading the post. he has a great reputation, been business a very long time and I am sure stands by his work.
why the hesitancy to allow him to make it right?
I believe there is a difference in spline count.first i ever herd this,... any body comferm this right or wrong???
I have to agree with this. The late 80,s 904Indy has been in business for 20+ years too and I think everyone knows someone that ended up taking their product somewhere to get made right because they were not comfortable with the situation (Russ stories).
Daryl is mad, who wouldn’t be, but also wants his car running sooner than later. I think one of his fears was getting the trans repaired in a timely manner and probably looked back on the amount of time it took to get the trans in the first place as a bad sign, and just decided to eat it.
…..and I don’t have a 904 case laying around right now but I find it interesting that it’s even possible to install a sprag backwards. Good to know for sure.
Speaking to the ORC issue - you can load the springs and rollers incorrectly - which negates the ORC function. But you have to be almost asleep to do it. Last edited by Transman; 04/10/23 02:42 PM. |
I'm not doubting that the transmission has issues but this sounds like a witch hunt. Why not use the shop that's been in business 40+ years that you trust for the transmission in the first place? The transmission was purchased before Cope quit building them. When was that? Over a year ago? I'm not sure when he quit building but seems like it was over a year ago. From the builders stand point a lot can happen in that time frame. You've stated he told you to calm down then hung up only to turn around and say he said send it back and then hung up. There's more to this.
Exactly and the race that goes into the case,
Speaking to the ORC issue - you can load the springs and rollers incorrectly - which negates the ORC function. But you have to be almost asleep to do it.
Last edited by Transman; 04/10/23 02:42 PM.
Looking at your bill I can see that John does indeed know what he is doing. Because I have done this conversion from a lockup to a none lockup, I know what is involved. But my conversion was done years ago based on what was available in aftermarket converters.Copy of bill , after it arrived I called and questioned all that about the correct imput shaft , he told me he knew what he was doing
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I agree with what you have said, howeverI don’t think the truth is ever going to come out on this situation. I know John has built some nice transmissions over the years. Yes John like many of us is getting older and it sounds like he has struggled to get good help. Yes John had also made some great products for the Mopar community. Yes I have heard John can be short on the phone but I think most of us can be. I think most of us have an idea in our minds how this should have been addressed but at this stage it’s too late. I think possibly a partial refund could have gone a long way but that’s just my thinking. I wish both of you luck and both have a great 2023.
I agree with what you have said, however
a business person who was short with me on the phone, won’t deter me from persuing
$$4,500. And there is no way I would then spend another several thousand dollars somewhere else to get the problem resolved.
That is on the Op.
The Op quoted several thousand dollars if I,m not mistaken.The parts are already bought and paid for so this rebuild won’t have those costs added in. I know how much it cost to freshen a transmission and what markup is. There’s no way this repair should cost the money you just quoted.
Read your post I quotedI agree with what you have said, however
a business person who was short with me on the phone, won’t deter me from persuing
$$4,500. And there is no way I would then spend another several thousand dollars somewhere else to get the problem resolved.
That is on the Op.