Attention all Members: Stop Name Calling and Bickering

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Ask Mrmopartech and the older members in a polite way, they've forgot more than most guys know.
Read a book, get your hands dirty, ask a question.
The Direct Connection chassis and engines books are a gold mine.

Name calling is for pussys.
Now that's wisdome right there. Heres a trick I love using to calm down these days. Grab a hand full of earth and just inhale...
 
I think when you have a lot of very intelligent motor heads in a forum like this the egos sometimes clash a bit. I think what we are seeing is condescending behavior. Sometimes a less experienced person with these cars, like myself, may say something wrong to get the really experienced ones going, just a thought.
 
Well said! Im real glad you did come back speak your mind.And some regular customers have showed up as well. This warms my heart.

We just need to remember that we are all human,make mistakes,piss each other off etc..

I am real glad we can come here to relax,tease one another and have the greatest FOUNTAIN OF MOPAR KNOWLEDGE IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSE RIGHT HERE!

The economy has everyone on edge. Just remember this;America has survived MUCH worse and things WILL get better. We Canadians went thru similar times not so long ago. You need to help your neighbour get thru this and he will help you.Make the first move.And stay positive.Believe it will happen and it will


I have been perhaps as guilty as anyone as far as name callin, startin trouble, ect. However, whether yall have noticed it or not, I have toned myself way down for some time. Yeah, I'm still a smartass and I have a ways to go to work on that. But just out of who I am, that will not go away 100%.

What I have come to the realization of is this. There are a lot of top notch people here. Lots of experience. As such, people sometimes get caught up wanting to "prove themselves" if you will. I'm man enough to admit I did. But you know what? The bottom line is, what I think of myself. I don't give a damn anymore whether somebody thinks I know a lot. I know what I know and I'm the only person who needs to know it. Somebody doesn't want to know something the way I do? Great, go learn it from someone else. That doesn't make my way right or anybody else's wrong, or vice versa.

It's just not necessary to be mean spirited and call people names.....unless it's in the spirit of good fun, and everybody KNOWS you're jokin around. Other than that, it's uncalled for and quite frankly, classless. It adds nothing to the conversation and in fact, does the opposite. It also takes away credibility from the person who said it.

I have had enough for a while. I got rubbed the wrong way when more than one member called me names in a thread where all I did was voice an opinion in a polite manner stating what I thought would be the right thing to do. I still feel the same way. Every member that called me a name was on my friends list. I was not under the impression friends treated each other in that manner. Even if that motorcycle rider was a member of my own family, I would turn him in. Some people think because someone is your friend or family that is reason enough to help them hide the dead bodies in the back yard. Sorry, but I just don't believe that. Wrong is wrong and if that makes me a "rat", "squid", crybaby", or anything else, then so be it. Those that think that of me, don't have to associate with me anymore. Although I think the name calling was wrong and childish, I don't harbor any ill will toward anyone. I find it amusing that those who did the name calling find their position so weak, that they had to resort to name calling in the first place. They knew their position was wrong, and that's the only leg they had to stand on, and that's ok. I've been hard headed before myself.

Also, something else I have mentioned several times on here. I am disabled. My disability is pretty debilitating at times. It has to do with inner ear and brain nerve damage due to an explosion that was a practical joke that was played on me at work some years back. I cannot do anything like I once could. Although I make out on here like I still do a few things, I cannot do much at all without having to rest from literally taking all of my strength just to remain balanced while standing even for short periods. This in itself is why I have not been to Fort Valley in a little while now to be with and check on Bruce. I have been having a bad time as of late. It comes and goes in cycles. Now is not a good time for me. I say all of that to lead into this. Winter does seem to bring out the crazy in people. Not being able to do some of the things we do during the warmer months. For me, it is like that all four seasons. Perhaps that's one reason why I am a little testy at times. And in no way shape form or fashion am I asking for or expecting special treatment. I am merely stating something that yall may not have known. I know full well I am not the only member here who is disabled, so I expect treatment no different than the next guy.

So, here is what "I" will do. "I" will do my best to improve the way I interact with people. I cannot propose to change or even try to change someone else, but I can do something for myself. I resolve form here on out to treat people with more dignity and respect. After all, we are only here for a short time, regardless of what your beliefs might be, that much is fact. So why not try to make the best of it?

Lastly, when I got mad the other night, I dumped my entire friends list. It was a stupid thing to do in hindsight and I apologize to all of you who were on it. I don't blame any of you if you don't want to be on my friends list again, but if any of you wish to be there again, I will certainly not refuse your request. We all do stupid things and that was mine for the time being. Who knows what's next? Anyway, that's my ramblin on it all and that' my promise. That I will try my best to improve.
 
Gotta be able to take what you dish out and have sense of humor to go with it.

To many people looking for an excuse to get offended.

I made a comment to a member once about a car he posted pictures of from his neighborhood, and I said it looked like the car had the "hispaniard package" and it seemed to ruin his friggin life, took it all out of context and dragged his Granddaughter into it, accused me of being a racist......HOLY CRAP!

The thread got locked before I could explain that I meant no harm as it's just my personality, I have Hispanic neighbors that actually came up with the term "Hispaniard package" for those types of vehicles.

I was just having fun, and even explained in a PM to the original poster that I apologize and meant no harm,...I never got a reply back and he seems to still be holding a grudge about it.
I've always been nice to that guy and complimented his car build and never had an issue whatsoever until that day, but that one comment seemed to have ruined his life and he used it as an excuse to not visit here as much.

I think that person needs to get over it, put the ego aside and learn how to accept an apology.
 
Disagreements turn to arguments, then turn into pissing matches, then the worst, somebody drags politics into a unrelated discussion. I chalk it up to cabin fever too.

Keep your pissing and politics to yourself. Thank you in advance.

Hope I didn't ruffle any feathers, sorry if I did!

Again thanks to Joey for trying to keep the peace in such hard times.

LCjeff

Hope I haven't been one of the problems.
 
I am glad you are sticking around strokerscamp .....I missed whatever thread everyone is referring to but I don't need to see it. I know you are one of the "good fellas" and your A O K in my book ....I will be re-sending you a friend request since you deleted everyone.

I have dropped my fabo usage .....not by a bunch but I have not been using it as much as i normally do.

main reason is, well....for most of the reasons pointed out in this thread lol.

you can't post anything without it being criticized any more or being made to feel under minded.

this last year has been financially tough for me and my family and I had mentioned it in threads of mine before ( I like to keep my friends up to date on how things are going rather it be my day to day or my duster or something funny I did or whatever the case....and that not only includes my friends in real life but my friends here on fabo) and at one point ( I will not mention who) but someone went as far as PMing me and basically saying I was financially a bad parent. which really pi$$ed me off.....the economy is rough on most everyone right now and I do not see how its fair at all to judge someone you do not even know and say things like that when a good % of american parents are in the same boat as we were....My family means everything to me and for him to even make a comment like that made me want to find where he lived and beat him senseless lol.

I will agree, there are alot of know it all's,people here to sell a car only and not here to take part in the "fabo experience" and so on.

but I would like to say that putting a title of "know it all" and plastering it to the younger age group is just wrong......."know it all's" come in different form,young,old,male and female ......I see just as many "old guys" saying they know everything from experience.....as I do seeing the young guys saying they know ever thing from college ...so there is no point in that argument.

I am 24 (still considered a young gun) I know alot about cars and I have done alot of first hand work in all different fields and aspects of working on a car.....however I do not know EVERYTHING and I will be the first to say that I still have alot to learn and that I am not afraid to ask questions when I have doubts about something...and I still learn new stuff all the time.

AND yes I have learned alot from the older mopar generation BUT I have also been taught a thing or 2 from the younger crowd .

The main reason I like fabo is for the friends and the information. and car **** of course HAHAHA.

your bound to have arguments .... think of it this way......FABO is a giant well performing engine. inside that engine you have oil,fuel,and coolant (fluids) (these fluids are us) .....when we all work together to focus on making things run smooth.....it goes off without a hitch.

but as soon as a drain pan (argument) is introduced into the scenario we are all splashed together. some of us are bound to not mix (agree) i.e.-oil and coolant, some of us stink up the place i.e.-fuel,we may have some sludge build up ( figurative slime balls lol).....but if every one works together than we as a one make for a great well performing engine.

sorry for the funky analogy lol.

anyhow...fabo rocks...I have made many friends and I have learned alot. And even with some of the select few bad apples that have came in went.....fabo is still worth coming back to.
 
See Cudaspaz that WOULD offend a person with brown skin. You are lucky to have such thich skin. After all you wouldn't dare walk up to a young hispanic wearing neighbouhood colors and say that. It would likely get you killed! It's O.K though because your not perfect.No one is.

I think what happens here is closer to a "well I don't know you and probably will never know you so lets just throw this comment out there". There are no faces attached to computer's and they cannot reach out and punch a guy in the face for pissing someone off. It seems to make the perfect excuse for crossing a certain line between polite and rude much easier. Some here even attack WOMEN!:angry7:

I wonder what would happen if God himself scooped us all up and dropped us in an isolated place with no place else to go.

It is inevitable that some will always fight. This is forordained since cane and able. We carry the genes of our forfathers within us...

And I should correct myself. My wife spends mucho time on facebook as her way of decompressing and communicating with distant relatives. Shannon tells me that the same poison bubbles beneath the surface there.And let me repeat it; POISON. After an internet conflict ,who comes away happy and not stressed? Quickly now,hands up please.


I ALWAYS feel sick after. I avoid it to my best ability but my irish temper excuse takes over and turns my brains to mush.

Im sorry for being so blunt guys and meant no offence to anyone.

It's just that I see anger every day here. I pray Joey tosses no one.
 
See Cudaspaz that WOULD offend a person with brown skin. You are lucky to have such thich skin. After all you wouldn't dare walk up to a young hispanic wearing neighbouhood colors and say that. It would likely get you killed! It's O.K though because your not perfect.No one is.

I think what happens here is closer to a "well I don't know you and probably will never know you so lets just throw this comment out there". There are no faces attached to computer's and they cannot reach out and punch a guy in the face for pissing someone off. It seems to make the perfect excuse for crossing a certain line between polite and rude much easier. Some here even attack WOMEN!:angry7:

I wonder what would happen if God himself scooped us all up and dropped us in an isolated place with no place else to go.

It is inevitable that some will always fight. This is forordained since cane and able. We carry the genes of our forfathers within us...

And I should correct myself. My wife spends mucho time on facebook as her way of decompressing and communicating with distant relatives. Shannon tells me that the same poison bubbles beneath the surface there.And let me repeat it; POISON. After an internet conflict ,who comes away happy and not stressed? Quickly now,hands up please.


I ALWAYS feel sick after. I avoid it to my best ability but my irish temper excuse takes over and turns my brains to mush.

Im sorry for being so blunt guys and meant no offence to anyone.

It's just that I see anger every day here. I pray Joey tosses no one.

dude, I think you just like to hear yourself talk.
 
I've been off here for a while. I have been lurking for the last couple of weeks, and have to agree that things here have taken a turn for the worse. I used to enjoy the banter, and read with interest the knowledge of those with far more experience than myself. However, the constant need for apologetic threads, and the "I am leaving for good" threads, followed by pages of posts trying to coax someone back are sounding more and more hollow everytime I read them.

I read with amusement the post of one of the mods "welcoming" members to the political forum. I unsubscribed from this one due to the absolute hatred being slung by members and their inability to even listen (nevermind debate) an issue. It's funny how I rarely see any input in any of the other forums from members who used to be involved in page after page of name-calling when I now click "New Posts" after unsubscribing. And when they do, they tend to subvert threads with the political BS.

My nine year-old daughter said to me - "Dad you know everything". I said, "No dear, I may seem to know everything, and I may know more than you about many things right now, but no one knows everything, and one day you will know more than me. Hopefully the day won't come where you know everything, because on that day, you no longer will look forward to tomorrow"

Grant
 
dude, I think you just like to hear yourself talk.

"Rant on"

Just one example of what bugs me. Shall I continue?

Now I ask "was that comment necessary or helpful? Me thinks not."

Does NOT address the topic or forward dialogue, shame on you (It's not just you Spaz), try harder to be nice.

One considerate mans opinion, PLEASE preview your posts before posting, be sure you are on topic and not hurtful.

Oh, and leave the politics where it belongs in the political forum!!!!!!! (directed to all)

"Rant off"

Flame me as you see fit, I'm Gold, your words cannot harm me (though they are bothersome)

I like the analogy of the bar room best, "I/you would not say that to a stranger in a out-of-town establishment"

LCjeff


PS, I previewed this post several times until I was satisfied with it's contents and will stick by these words. :read2:
 
"Rant on"

Just one example of what bugs me. Shall I continue?

Now I ask "was that comment necessary or helpful? Me thinks not."

Does NOT address the topic or forward dialogue, shame on you (It's not just you Spaz), try harder to be nice.

One considerate mans opinion, PLEASE preview your posts before posting, be sure you are on topic and not hurtful.

Oh, and leave the politics where it belongs in the political forum!!!!!!! (directed to all)

"Rant off"

Flame me as you see fit, I'm Gold, your words cannot harm me (though they are bothersome)

I like the analogy of the bar room best, "I/you would not say that to a stranger in a out-of-town establishment"

LCjeff


PS, I previewed this post several times until I was satisfied with it's contents and will stick by these words. :read2:
Well, if the guy would have listened to what I said, I tried to apologize to the dude, even PM'd him to explain myself but he was too stubborn to accept an apology.
I guess I was being too nice.

What's all this deal about keeping thing in the political forum?

Oh my gosh, you guys act like your world is going to come crumbling down if someone makes a comment political by mistaking a thread is nopt in that forum,.
 
Remember, this is where it started.


With this I am putting everyone on notice...

As a general rule here at FABO, I really do not like to moderate / censor people. I believe people should be able to act as adults and treat each other with a little bit of respect.

Of late, I am noticing, that is not the case in some occasions.

This is not grade school. Calling someone a doody head (or whatever other name you think of) does nothing to shore up your argument or make you look smarter. At the same time, just because someone called you a name doesnt mean you have to respond in kind.

People I dont want to have to start banning people, deleting posts, deleting threads, etc. I really want to just let you guys have total freedom of speech. But you have to conduct yourselves in something of a mature manner. I cannot continue to let members become abusive toward other members. In a bar you might get your *** kicked, here you might get banned. It's not a direction I want to take, but this has to stop.

So I am warning everyone. If I see you being abusoive to another memeber, I might just ban you from FABO without question, comment or warning. So consider that before you make a commnt that makes you look like a childish fool.

Rant over. We will now resume normal programming.


Thank you for your understanding......
 
Deleted. Getting drawn into it lol..

Since I already posted..

Finally got my T-shirts from last fall Joey. Thought our post office lost them, but they proved me wrong. Love them :)

Grant
 
I think everyone should be polite here. Take it out on the Chevy guys at the strip.
 
Yep I had my say and cudaspaz did'nt like it. Thanks for the support lcj,your right that was a good example of what starts a brwl here. We agree to digagree. It' works for me.

Peace be on you cudaspaz. I meant no harm and I mean it. You just need to see it from another point of view is all.
 
Man, I'm going over to News & Politics for some peace and quiet.
 
Yep I had my say and cudaspaz did'nt like it. Thanks for the support lcj,your right that was a good example of what starts a brwl here. We agree to digagree. It' works for me.

Peace be on you cudaspaz. I meant no harm and I mean it. You just need to see it from another point of view is all.
This IS NOT directed at cudaspaz but at everyone, myself included, but there is always a different point of view from yours. That is just the way it is. And most arguements/pissing contest start when someone fails to remember that. I learned along time ago that it is far easier to walk away from an argument then it is to try and convince the other party to change his view of things......
 
Lol,pretty good saying there! I'll have to store that one away...
 
I think this thread is kinda funny. I wouldnt hesitate to say the things I have said HERE to people I have said them to, but IN PERSON.

I know of More Than (1) arrogant jerk on this website.

Some rich guys are just here to Brag to the actual working class mopar guys that their money already had thier car built......or they got it for a cash steal off some sucker, or swooped up a deal off someone who is getting a divorce, or lost a job. Others like to stroke off there buddies ego's and pat each other on the back for helping figuring out how to wire in a dual field alternator.

Some middle class family guys' are here to network, and find the little stupid stuff that is missing off their incomplete a-body.....and they usually dont have 5000+ posts...and post in every single forum when they see their friends names as the last poster.

Some poor Single guys beg, and borrow, and network and sympathy insinuate to get them back on the road.....and they have to post in every thread so everyone knows they could be back on the road again with a used idler arm.

We are all here to share our experiences with specifically the A-body line of Chrysler Corporation vehicles.

Each one of us individual and different.
Some, might really be Doody Heads

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