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496 polara

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Time is upon me to do a stroked RB for my 72 Duster. Will be primarily street driven but will see the track for fun. I had planned to use the Mancini or 440 source 6qt reproduction A body pan. The engine builder likes the external single line Milodon. Will that fit and clear the steering? I expect to do the 1/2 pickup and max rpm will be 6500 and more likely 6200-6300. Hope to make peak power @ 6000 rpm plus or minus 200 rpm.

Have no problems doing either just want it to fit the first time.
 
496 polara said:
Time is upon me to do a stroked RB for my 72 Duster. Will be primarily street driven but will see the track for fun. I had planned to use the Mancini or 440 source 6qt reproduction A body pan. The engine builder likes the external single line Milodon. Will that fit and clear the steering? I expect to do the 1/2 pickup and max rpm will be 6500 and more likely 6200-6300. Hope to make peak power @ 6000 rpm plus or minus 200 rpm.

Have no problems doing either just want it to fit the first time.
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Hopefully the pan is well baffled, at 6500 rpm I can imagine the oil will be out of the sump climbing up the rear of the crankshaft without baffles.
 
Yes the reproduction 6qt A body pans have baffles for the sump. Windage tray or crank scraper is another debate entirely. :realcrazy: For a separate thread.

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496 polara said:
Yes the reproduction 6qt A body pans have baffles for the sump. Windage tray or crank scraper is another debate entirely. :realcrazy: For a separate thread.
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What stroker are you building?
 
I would love to see a 10 sec slip once in my life lol. 3.55 gears are here to stay as it is a street car.

It is a prepare as best as I can but be happy with the outcome scenario. Same with whatever HP it makes. Not getting hung up on numbers or et. Just want it to be fast AND fun.
 
I am pondering the same pan. The hemi 6 quart that fits a body correct? Hangs a little lower than the 187 pan. 440 source advertises theirs as a thicker pan. Not sure if Mancini's is that way. The thicker pan may be a bonus. I also have the half inch pickup.
 
There are countless 10 second big block cars running without external oiling. I don't think there's really a "need" for that, but if that's what you think, it won't hurt anything.
 
Will that pan and pickup clear the +1/2" stroke crank?? You may need an external pickup with thet 4.25". That is alot of stroke for a streetcar.
 
413 said:
Will that pan and pickup clear the +1/2" stroke crank?? You may need an external pickup with thet 4.25". That is alot of stroke for a streetcar.
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I used a factory style windage tray and an old Moroso pan on my 512 with no clearance issues. 7 qrts + 1 in filter. Upper 10's is double with 3.55 gears and a stroker BB. My sbc with 3.42 gears and 2500 convertor has run 10.86 @ 125.6. sbc stroker. 3570 with driver.
 
413 said:
Will that pan and pickup clear the +1/2" stroke crank?? You may need an external pickup with thet 4.25". That is alot of stroke for a streetcar.
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I believe that if you use the Chevy big block sized rods it will since the big end of the rods are smaller.
 
496 polara said:
Time is upon me to do a stroked RB for my 72 Duster. Will be primarily street driven but will see the track for fun. I had planned to use the Mancini or 440 source 6qt reproduction A body pan. The engine builder likes the external single line Milodon. Will that fit and clear the steering? I expect to do the 1/2 pickup and max rpm will be 6500 and more likely 6200-6300. Hope to make peak power @ 6000 rpm plus or minus 200 rpm.

Have no problems doing either just want it to fit the first time.
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Listen to your engine builder. I've posted this before but you can NOT get the oil pump pickup too big, especially when the pump is up front.

Even a 1/2 inch pickup is too small and you can't get it any bigger with the pickup in the pan.
 
413 said:
Will that pan and pickup clear the +1/2" stroke crank?? You may need an external pickup with thet 4.25". That is alot of stroke for a streetcar.
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Heck, just put it on, fire it up and run it up to 3500. It'll clearance itself. lol
 
Newbomb Turk said:
Listen to your engine builder. I've posted this before but you can NOT get the oil pump pickup too big, especially when the pump is up front.

Even a 1/2 inch pickup is too small and you can't get it any bigger with the pickup in the pan.
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At the level he's building, there's probably truth to that.
 
Daves69 said:
Hmm, Rock shows same replacements. Maybe steering box location difference?
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Good luck with that. I've had an original 68 Barracuda 383 Formula S since the 70's. I guarantee you they are different. I can even run a street Hemi pan without mods if I want to.
 
What is the actual capacity of the 893 pan. I have heard conflicting info.
The hemi pan (587) seems to clear in most cases with some people having to clearance?
 
66fs said:
Good luck with that. I've had an original 68 Barracuda 383 Formula S since the 70's. I guarantee you they are different. I can even run a street Hemi pan without mods if I want to.
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Go for it!:thumbsup:
 
DC Dart said:
What is the actual capacity of the 893 pan. I have heard conflicting info.
The hemi pan (587) seems to clear in most cases with some people having to clearance?
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I think it is only 5 qts. I was running a 402 pan, since I was too stupid when I got the car and pitched the original 893 pan and original air cleaner. That mistake only cost me $1,000.
 
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