With the average shitty 50 buck timing chain, they are junk in 20 minutes.
They last 318 minutes.
With the average shitty 50 buck timing chain, they are junk in 20 minutes.
Yes. Do it if you know it's somewhat new stuff. If the chain is loose on the new stuff... you'll know what to do, replace it or implement a tensioner for 40 bucks.When the 4-bbl was installed on my 318 (about 5 years/3,000 miles ago) the original timing chain and gears were replaced with a SUM-G6603 double roller chain/gears. I also had a new water pump (Cardone 8-vane) installed.
The engine is going in to be rebuilt in a few weeks. Can these components be re-used on the new rebuild?
I was wonderin. I was wantin to look into one of those Village timing chains. I thought maybe my buddy had found something new and improved.Billet... Damn voice command...
I learned years ago with chain driven motorcycles that chains don’t stretch. I know it’s a term we all refer to and many may know it actually elongates, It’s the pins and rollers that wear due to inadequate lubrication so then they made versions with o-rings, then x-rings, special alloys, special grease etc etc. The sprockets teeth wear, get wallowed out because the chain gets elongated. Taking steps to deliver adequate oil to the timing chain helps. I drilled a hole in one of the cam retainer plate bolts (does it help dribble oil to the chain? no idea but people here said to do it, seems like a good theory) and the tensioners plate I’m running has an oiler tab directed towards the chain. I ended up reusing the Summit billet timing set (same as Jpar shows) on a cam swap a few months ago and noticed the chain had pretty much the same play when I first installed it over 4 years ago, WITHOUT the tensioner in place during degreeing.
The myth of chain stretch - MRO Magazine
"Prestretched" my big old butt.Roll master are nice chains but if this a mild build that low mile used chain will be fine . And as A/J pointed out prestretched !
"Prestretched" my big old butt.
Yall use them bullcrapper chains if you want to. I've learned my lesson. To me, camshaft timing is important enough that I want it as stable as possible and I want it to stay as close as possible to where it was when I assembled it. It makes a big difference in performance that the timing stays "where" it's designed to.
I cannot believe even as broke as my *** stays, there are some on here arguing against using a really good quality chain. It behooves me.
Yes, they did, but they were stretch all to hell and worn, too.My understanding is that the current chain has very few hours on it . So unless it was a junk chain to start with I see no issue in reusing it . If the logic is that chains are worn out by 3k then we should all be replacing them every 3k... the chain doesnt know it was removed and reinstalled .
I run a billet rollmaster in my 408 with a .648 solid roller cam and a double roller Cloyes in my milder 360 for the DD Barracuda . So its not like I don't appreciate good components but if this is just a run around car I dont think the OP needs to go Super Duty . Hell even the OEM plastic gears went 50k before needing replacement.
Yep, a lot of people also drill a small hole through the thrust plate where it covers the main oil galleys to get pressurized oil to the chain. That hollow bolt is really a joke.The cam thrust plate should have a hollow bolt with a small hole in it in the top left position. Also the oil drip plate.
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it comes down to what is available if there are no bearings available yes you would clean inspect and reuse. if you are on an island or in the middle of the dessert and there are no parts available..etc. people go woth a standard routine of replacing cam lifeters tyiming chain there is a check /inspection for all those parts where you find out if it is reuseble or not. Most dont know how to checka nd measue and inspect and they have more money than time so they replace verything, that is a lixury that may go away sooner that we thionk. goo dparts are becoming difficult to come by. After 3 or 4 chinese timing chains you may wish you hadnt throw your original one away...How many other "good used parts" are going into the "rebuild" ? New bearings or just check the old ones to see if they can be reused.....
My late father in-law always seemed to be spending a dollar to save a dime. Never understood that.
The cam thrust plate should have a hollow bolt with a small hole in it in the top left position. Also the oil drip plate.