Correct Super Stock Seats?

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Also look at the Burgundy paint on the Dart
All door jams, trunk and engine bays painted black
 
davescuda said:
Also look at the Burgundy paint on the Dart
All door jams, trunk and engine bays painted black
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Wow, I saw that and pictures that confuse the hell out of me. Is there are dates on those photos? I’m betting they are the first run so that would be early March?? The Dart wheel well cutout looks very early. OR they were the very last run and they took them off the assembly line after paint.
 
SSing look at photo on number #49. Good photo.
 
This is a good on to. Look at the steering column housing is shorten

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Very nice Dave, thank you very much for sharing.

With everything being said I would love to see photos from back in the day with a seat in a BO or LO folded forward……just one. I’m not saying I don’t believe everybody but I sure would love to see it.
 
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davescuda said:
Also look at the Burgundy paint on the Dart
All door jams, trunk and engine bays painted black
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I have come up with three different scenarios that could explain this but there so far fetch I won’t even post them!! LOL!!
 
ns1rm21 said:
Very nice Dave, thank you very much for sharing.

With everything being said I would love to see photos from back in the day with a seat in a BO or LO folded forward……just one. I’m not saying I don’t believe everybody but I sure would love to see it.
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I know the guy that built these cars at hurst. These are his pictures he took at work.
 
ns1rm21 said:
PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THETE IS A “ENGINE STARTING” TAG IN THIS CAR!!! Those were installed at the end of the assembly line…..I thought these cars were pulled long before then! I give up!!
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There is no assembly line at hurst
 
davescuda said:
I know the guy that built these cars at hurst. These are his pictures he took at work.
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Correct but there is a big difference between Feb 1968 and June 1968. Just wondering…
 
ns1rm21 said:
SSing look at photo on number #49. Good photo.
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Yes, good picture and considering it is taken from an angle from behind, the gap between the tire and the front lower lip of wheel well, is connciderebely bigger than on production cars, even bigger than on this Dart...
Note (about the same angle) on the production car how, at the bottom closer to the rocker, the wheel well line cuts in sts.
We are talking an inch at the most, at the very bottom, that was cut off at some point...
I don´t beleve this myself really, but is it possible rear quarter was prefab at Chrysler, on the bodies that vere ment to be shiped to Hurst. Think they had the time to do so on the first run of Cudas... second run not likley...
How tall are the tires, on cars leaving Hurst?

Edit.
I have now found the picture I first made to compare and saved, when i saw the picture of the Cuda taken at Hurst and posted on a forum a couple years ago. This picture of a production Barracuda, is taken from close to the exact same angle as the Hurst pic. Acctually a little further forward, witch makes the wheel well line go more stright, making the difference look less compared to the Hurst picture.
Disregard the three picture shown in this post.
I post three new picture in next post.
Remember, we are talking some 1" at the most at the very bottom of the wheel well. Inside is the wheel tube. Cutting line than gradually goes upwards to meat edge of wheel well some 10 inches up. So not a whole lot has been cut of.
I have earlier posted picture of the Mule Car, that also have this cut done.

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org ww fabo.jpg

Dart ww fabo.jpg
 
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SSing said:
Yes, good picture and considering it is taken from an angle from behind, the gap between the tire and the front lower lip of wheel well, is connciderebely bigger than on production cars, even bigger than on this Dart...
Note (about the same angle) on the production car how, at the bottom closer to the rocker, the wheel well line cuts in sts.
We are talking an inch at the most, at the very bottom, that was cut off at some point...
I don´t beleve this myself really, but is it possible rear quarter was prefab at Chrysler, on the bodies that vere ment to be shiped to Hurst. Think they had the time to do so on the first run of Cudas... second run not likley...
How tall are the tires, on cars leaving Hurst?
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Yes, thank you davescuda for shearing...

And add another 1/4 of an inch to the first picture. This much does the offset front spring mounts, put the rear axle forward. Meaning the gap appears less than it in reality is.
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SSing said:
Yes, good picture and considering it is taken from an angle from behind, the gap between the tire and the front lower lip of wheel well, is connciderebely bigger than on production cars, even bigger than on this Dart...
Note (about the same angle) on the production car how, at the bottom closer to the rocker, the wheel well line cuts in sts.
We are talking an inch at the most, at the very bottom, that was cut off at some point...
I don´t beleve this myself really, but is it possible rear quarter was prefab at Chrysler, on the bodies that vere ment to be shiped to Hurst. Think they had the time to do so on the first run of Cudas... second run not likley...
How tall are the tires, on cars leaving Hurst?

Edit.
I have now found the picture I first made to compare and saved, when i saw the picture of the Cuda taken at Hurst and posted on a forum a couple years ago. This picture of a production Barracuda, is taken from close to the exact same angle as the Hurst pic. Acctually a little further forward, witch makes the wheel well line go more stright, making the difference look less compared to the Hurst picture.
Disregard the three picture shown in this post.
I post three new picture in next post.
Remember, we are talking some 1" at the most at the very bottom of the wheel well. Inside is the wheel tube. Cutting line than gradually goes upwards to meat edge of wheel well some 10 inches up. So not a whole lot has been cut of.
I have earlier posted picture of the Mule Car, that also have this cut done.

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Here are the new pictures taken from very close to same angle.

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product WW comp.jpg

Dart ww fabo.jpg
 
The barracuda wheel well is not opened up. You would definitely see it. It comes straight down like all of them.
 
ns1rm21 said:
One thing WE need to consider is the offset of the BO wheel is far more than those of the painted wheel. The wheel is pushed in away from the lower lip making it look like there is more clearance. The tire on the painted wheel IS closer to that lower lip because of the wheel offset is stock.
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Yes that is correct, I understand that, but still, the lines are not the same.
How tall are these tires from Hurst?
And what is your take on the fact the Mule car had the cut made, as I have shown in a post in another thread?
 
SSing said:
Yes that is correct, I understand that, but still, the lines are not the same.
How tall are these tires from Hurst?
And what is your take on the fact the Mule car had the cut made, as I have shown in a post in another thread?
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The mule car was a one off car that had many non production modifications done to it for testing purposes. The mule was a test bed. There were many items on the car that never went into production. The mule even had a water cooling system on it were they would hook a hose to it and it would spray water on the trans case and torque converter so they could make back to back passes on it without overheating the trans. Not kidding!
 
SSing said:
Yes that is correct, I understand that, but still, the lines are not the same.
How tall are these tires from Hurst?
And what is your take on the fact the Mule car had the cut made, as I have shown in a post in another thread?
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The tire used was a 7.75-15 that is just under 27” tall.
 
This topic went from seats to rear wheel well cutouts on a Barracuda, fun stuff! I going to leave this here and see what everybody has to say. This is from Bob Tarozzi personal notes. Dated 11/14/67. Look at line “E” . “Flair rear quarter panels for tire clearance on Darts only”.
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This is good stuff. Thanks for sharing. In my opinion they may have rolled the Barracuda wheel wells but they did not open them up. If the did roll them most likely the front of the wheel well at the very bottom. It is close with a 28 inch tall tire. If they changed the wheel well shape at it would be very noticeable.
 
I have always said that I’m going by the way of “The way the engineers intended the cars to be”. Should the seats fold?…..no…but did some leave Hurst with folding seat….probably. Were the Barracuda’s intended to have a modified wheel opening?…no….did Hurst get feedback from people to open up the wheel opening?…maybe….did they get opened up…maybe.
 
If any of this area (Arrow to arrow) was opened up (I know I would notice it right away) it would be so noticeable. I goes almost straight down.

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