Cylinder #7 down on compression

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I drove the car all season and it felt like power was down some. Not sure where this winter project is going to go but today I was off and decided to do a compression check. Engine cold and all plugs out 7 of the 8 cylinders were low of 137 and high of 155.......Cylinder 7 was at about 110PSI.......Not good at all.......engine is 70 340 matching number to my Duster. I am not burning oil so I am thinking valve issue. Checked springs on #7 and pushrods and they look good. Where do you recommend I go next? Should I pull the intake and look for cam/lifter issue? Can a leak test be done with heads still on engine in car? No idea how to do a leak down test but I willing to give it a shot.
 
What kind of fuel do you use ?

The reason I ask is that buildup on the back side of valves can cause the same thing .
It will ever so slightly cause the valve to leak .
It will eventually burn a valve if left long enough .

Tommy
 
No engine expert here, but I would do(and have) a leakdown next. They are done with head on. Chk boobtube out to make a LD tester. Basically uses same pieces as a compression tester in a different configuration. Good luck!
 
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No idea how to do a leak down test but I willing to give it a shot.
If you are a newbe, and you do not have a LD tester;
here's what I recommend.
1) Take off the driver's side VC, and look for a sloppy pushrod preload, on the low-pressure cylinder, as compared to another cylinder with good pressure; which may signal a cam-lobe going down. Of course the checking has to be done with the lifters on the base-circles. If you suspect a loose fit, more testing is needed.

As to the LD test
2) Next, remove the radcap, and fill the rad right up. Cuz;
Later, as you put pressure to the cylinder for this type of LD test, the piston will fly to the bottom; and the chamber will pressure-up. Keep your knuckles away from the fan! Then; Right away, check the coolant in the rad for bubbling. As the pressure comes up, 100psi can do damage in the rad if the headgasket is leaking; So if you get bubbling, or the water blows out; stop the test!
If no bubbling, then for the rest of the time, keep one eye on the filler-neck.
3) Next, remove the rocker gear. This will allow the cylinder to seal up, as good as it can get. What you need to do now is to inject air into the plug-hole, and see where it comes out.
But
If you hear air coming out the carb, or air coming out the tailpipe, then, one or both of the valves are leaking. Since the piston is at the bottom, you can now bop the valves without fear of bending them on the pistons. I smack them with a dead-blow hammer, but you can use whatever. Don't go crazy cuz it is possible to kick a lock out.
After every bop, listen for a change or decrease in the hissing, and/or a change in the sound of the valves smacking back onto the seats. As you continue, if you get a sharp "pop", and the hissing more or less quits then stop the test. What you are doing is smashing the carbon off the seat, and simultaneously blowing it out.
If this works, then after a few bops, any hissing left is going into the CC past the rings, which is sortof normal.
But if the hissing never stops
You may have a bent or burned valve.
5) Put the valve gear back on, with the rocker shaft oriented correctly, and correctly torqued to IIRC 15 ftlbs for 5/16ths bolts. Then
6) redo the compression test.
If the numbers are same as before, you still don't know if it's bad or stuck rings, or a scratch in the cylinder wall, or really could still just be valves; so now, you gotta go rent an LD tester, and repeat the test with the Piston at TDC/Compression, minus the valve bopping..
 
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Can a leak test be done with heads still on engine in car? No idea how to do a leak down test but I willing to give it a shot.

Absolutely, the spark plug hole entry is done with a fitting with flexible hose which comes with the tester. The test will give you a bunch of information.
 
Piston to the bottom of the cylinder and put air pressure to it, listen for where it's leaving the ship. Intake, exhaust or breather.
 
1970, it's 54 years old and depending on the miles on it it's probably tired. But a leak down test would be a good place to start but don't be surprised if it's due for a rebuild.
 
@AJ covered it. If you don’t want to remove the valve train. You can spin the motor over in direction of rotation with a large breaker bar and socket on the balancer nut until the valves are close for the cylinder you are checking, and then do the next cylinder in the firing order. Leave the plugs in the other holes Will reduce the chance of the motor spinning when you hit it with air from the LD tester.
 
I do not see much benefit doing a LD test. At least one cyl is low so at a minimum, the heads need to come off. Problem may be readily apparent: burned/leaking valve or failed head gasket.

If the engine has high mileage, a ridge forms at the top of the bore where the ring travel finishes. The top ring can hit the ridge....& break.
 
Doesn't anyone put a little oil in the cylinder & retest anymore? One tablespoon of oil, spin the motor over to spread the oil & retest... If the compression goes up the rings are the problem.. If not valves or cam are the likely cause.... 110 PSI isn't a burned valve, it could be carbon but a burned valve would typically be less than 30 PSI...
 
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