Dang...

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And I've said it till I'm blue in the face, the members we have here, makes this a FAR SUPERIOR place to get mopar information than all those 2 bit hack YouTube wanna bees
 
replicaracer43 said:
People like to call me a "hater" when I point out facts about uncle tony. But that right there is a example of him sucking off someone elses youtube content, to put his own "misinformation" video out. Ignorant youtube hack making a quick buck off of ignorant followers
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And those followers come here and it takes us 6 months to straighten them out. :BangHead: :BangHead: :rofl:
 
toolmanmike said:
And those followers come here and it takes us 6 months to straighten them out. :BangHead: :BangHead: :rofl:
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Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. I can’t even get some people to agree on terminology so you can START to have a discussion in 6 months.
 
Didn't someone say the guy that built the 318 stroker motor had run it for a couple of years? Not like he built it and blew it up on the first run.

Not saying anyone is wrong about the assessment on splitting a bore, seems like a good possibility based on how much it was bored. But it seems unlikely (to me) that the motor could fill the entire bore with water when running at 7K rpm. I'm no expert (even if I have stayed at a Holiday Inn), but just seems like too much volume to fill up and hydro lock the motor unless it was sitting still. And the crack is at the bottom so it wouldn't start taking in water until it was at the bottom of the stroke. Just saying the fact that the piston was sideways at the bottom of the bore suggests to me that the crank broke first, turned the piston sideways and split the block at that point. Add that it was an Eagle crank and (per above comments) not the first to break this way.

Not saying I know what I am talking about, certainly much more experienced individuals here than I am. Just an observation and thought.

Back to the idea that he ran this motor for a couple of years, seems like he is due some credit for making it work that long even if it did fail spectacularly. Even if we don't agree with his method.
 
DionR said:
Didn't someone say the guy that built the 318 stroker motor had run it for a couple of years? Not like he built it and blew it up on the first run.

Not saying anyone is wrong about the assessment on splitting a bore, seems like a good possibility based on how much it was bored. But it seems unlikely (to me) that the motor could fill the entire bore with water when running at 7K rpm. I'm no expert (even if I have stayed at a Holiday Inn), but just seems like too much volume to fill up and hydro lock the motor unless it was sitting still. And the crack is at the bottom so it wouldn't start taking in water until it was at the bottom of the stroke. Just saying the fact that the piston was sideways at the bottom of the bore suggests to me that the crank broke first, turned the piston sideways and split the block at that point. Add that it was an Eagle crank and (per above comments) not the first to break this way.

Not saying I know what I am talking about, certainly much more experienced individuals here than I am. Just an observation and thought.

Back to the idea that he ran this motor for a couple of years, seems like he is due some credit for making it work that long even if it did fail spectacularly. Even if we don't agree with his method.
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Not a bad theory at all. But if you watch his video you can see multiple cracks in those two bores. What happened first the chicken or the egg? Answer; who gives a ****.
 
The only thing learned in this thread is that if you ever blow up a motor, don't mention it on this forum :)
 
DionR said:
Didn't someone say the guy that built the 318 stroker motor had run it for a couple of years? Not like he built it and blew it up on the first run.

Not saying anyone is wrong about the assessment on splitting a bore, seems like a good possibility based on how much it was bored. But it seems unlikely (to me) that the motor could fill the entire bore with water when running at 7K rpm. I'm no expert (even if I have stayed at a Holiday Inn), but just seems like too much volume to fill up and hydro lock the motor unless it was sitting still. And the crack is at the bottom so it wouldn't start taking in water until it was at the bottom of the stroke. Just saying the fact that the piston was sideways at the bottom of the bore suggests to me that the crank broke first, turned the piston sideways and split the block at that point. Add that it was an Eagle crank and (per above comments) not the first to break this way.

Not saying I know what I am talking about, certainly much more experienced individuals here than I am. Just an observation and thought.

Back to the idea that he ran this motor for a couple of years, seems like he is due some credit for making it work that long even if it did fail spectacularly. Even if we don't agree with his method.
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If he had it for two years how much was it used. Many Mopar racers go racing twice a year.
 
pittsburghracer said:
If he had it for two years how much was it used. Many Mopar racers go racing twice a year.
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Valid point.

I know nothing about the guy beyond the linked video and assumed he raced it regularly. But it was an assumption I wasn't even aware I made until you made the comment.
 
DionR said:
Valid point.

I know nothing about the guy beyond the linked video and assumed he raced it regularly. But it was an assumption I wasn't even aware I made until you made the comment.
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I’m not sure either but I know more guys that race five times a year than I do that race more than five.
 
DionR said:
But it seems unlikely (to me) that the motor could fill the entire bore with water when running at 7K rpm. I'm no expert (even if I have stayed at a Holiday Inn), but just seems like too much volume to fill up and hydro lock the motor unless it was sitting still.
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You wouldn’t need to fill the whole bore. For example, zero deck piston with 5cc for valve relief, 7cc for head gasket, and 65cc for chamber, you can hydro lock with as little as 77cc of water.
 
DNasty777 said:
You wouldn’t need to fill the whole bore. For example, zero deck piston with 5cc for valve relief, 7cc for head gasket, and 65cc for chamber, you can hydro lock with as little as 77cc of water.
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Right, but that would be at the top of the bore. Just saying the fact that the piston is stuck at the bottom of the bore suggests that it would have had to fill the whole cylinder.
 
DionR said:
Right, but that would be at the top of the bore. Just saying the fact that the piston is stuck at the bottom of the bore suggests that it would have had to fill the whole cylinder.
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It could be stuck at the bottom of the bore because it bent the rod at the top, wedged in the bottom of the bore, and then broke the crank.
 
TT5.9mag said:
Not a bad theory at all. But if you watch his video you can see multiple cracks in those two bores. What happened first the chicken or the egg? Answer; who gives a ****.
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Omlette. That's what he got.
 
Doesn't seem to say much for the strength of the crank if the rod bent some and then the crank breaks. Rod didn't look to have much more than a curve to it.
 
DionR said:
Doesn't seem to say much for the strength of the crank if the rod bent some and then the crank breaks. Rod didn't look to have much more than a curve to it.
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It's a eagle crank, they are famous for breaking, i would put money on that came loose before the rod
 
pittsburghracer said:
This guy is so full of crap. 318 my butt. How’s he come up with 600 horsepower. What’s it run at what weight.
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I found his other videos, it weighs 3000lbs total WITH driver and fuel, it ran 10:80s at 126 mph. It's also a 408 stroker, solid roller cam deal. Paper thin cylinders
 
Here is what real world physics say about his "600" horsepower

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Thats pretty low for a solid roller and trick flow heads, must have had a little blow by....
 
Never realized it only takes 500hp to run 10's.. thought it was more for some reason
 
replicaracer43 said:
And THIS boys and girls, is why a lot of us tell you NOT to max overbore your blocks. Thin walls make less power, and they split easier. This guy WOULD have made more power, with a .010 over 360 block and it would likely have lived a long life making the 500ish actual power his thin wall grenade was making. BUT.... he was running around telling everyone how bad *** his "318" is/was. Uncle tony wanna be.
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He said that it was a 0.030" over bore, if a 318 can't handle that, we're all in trouble. I know that you was using the 0.010 over bore 360 as a example.
 
Dan the man said:
He said that it was a 0.030" over bore, if a 318 can't handle that, we're all in trouble. I know that you was using the 0.010 over bore 360 as a example.
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Dan, he said it was .100 over. That makes it a 4 inch bore. And he didn’t sonic test it. That’s stupid, as the results show.
 
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