Dartin for Divorce

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billsdartgt said:
hope you got a flashlight to take with you down the rabbit hole.

This is where and how the addiction starts, one of the things I have never seen is how it ends LOL

you can find some small scale copies of our cars, perhaps you can find your kiddos one and have them paint and tweak it while you are working on the ride, will be something to keep them going when the car is sitting on jackstands
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I've never seen how the addiction ends either! I actually bought a couple of those extendable flash lights that are magnetic to take with me down the hole, thanks thinking of me though!

It shouldn't be on jack stands to long (hopefully) cleaning the engine some tonight and tomorrow,. I was going to pull the heads earlier but I didnt... I'll do that tonight before bed. @70aarcuda is coming over tomorrow and we will install the cam, lifters, springs if everything checks out. Then he will leave me to put the rest of it back together... not fair :poke::D
 
moparmandan said:
Hey Doc how's things out there? You have more time to work on the car? My wife's a Dental Assistant and has spent all day Friday and today re-scheduling.........
Hope all is well.
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Yea we had spring break last week and the school extended it an extra week. We won't be seeing patients for regular visits until April 13th at the earliest. Once we go back its straight to finals though which is not exciting. I hate tests, I'm not the best test taker.

Everything else is great though! I have been flying under the radar, spending to much time on FABO and spending to much money on this car Lol, you only live once though right?!
 
DentalDart said:
Yea we had spring break last week and the school extended it an extra week. We won't be seeing patients for regular visits until April 13th at the earliest. Once we go back its straight to finals though which is not exciting. I hate tests, I'm not the best test taker.

Everything else is great though! I have been flying under the radar, spending to much time on FABO and spending to much money on this car Lol, you only live once though right?!
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Yep! For me, being confined to my shop is not a problem!
 
DentalDart said:
No dont say this lol

I think my mechanical temp guage can go here.
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If you have trouble getting that pipe plug out, like I did, you could drill and tap this. That's what I did.
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Easy way to get a steel pipe plug out of aluminum intake is use a bernsonatic torch with mapp gas. Get the plug freaking hot and keep chilling it down with WD40 then heating if back up, and chilling it back down. Eventually the WD40 will work down in the threads and a pipe wrench will break it loose and it will thread right out. Use brass or stainless steel plugs to avoid them corroding to the aluminum.
 
moparmat2000 said:
Easy way to get a steel pipe plug out of aluminum intake is use a bernsonatic torch with mapp gas. Get the plug freaking hot and keep chilling it down with WD40 then heating if back up, and chilling it back down. Eventually the WD40 will work down in the threads and a pipe wrench will break it loose and it will thread right out. Use brass or stainless steel plugs to avoid them corroding to the aluminum.
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Yeah I tried heat and probably gave up too easy. It was on the engine in the car. Had that housing sitting on the shelf and just said what the hell. Wanted to see if it would work. LOL.
 
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moparmandan said:
If you have trouble getting that pipe plug out, like I did, you could drill and tap this. That's what I did.
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moparmat2000 said:
Easy way to get a steel pipe plug out of aluminum intake is use a bernsonatic torch with mapp gas. Get the plug freaking hot and keep chilling it down with WD40 then heating if back up, and chilling it back down. Eventually the WD40 will work down in the threads and a pipe wrench will break it loose and it will thread right out. Use brass or stainless steel plugs to avoid them corroding to the aluminum.
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I'm actually more worried about this heater hose fitting, it's so corroded and there isnt a hex head on it from po stripping it out.

Know how to clean out the inside of this dirty corroded intake?

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Doc Im sad to see you start to get this deep into the rabbit hole, I am almost out of the other side with all the cleaning, scrubbing, degreasing, and painting, it just plain sucks, but it loooooks so much better - enjoy
 
Getting old fittings out of an intake:
1.Heat the fitting up red hot.
2.Put paraffin wax on the fitting so the wax melts into the threads.
3.Now smack the fitting with a big ******* hammer. This "Shocks" the fitting.
4.Clamp down on the fitting with some vise grips, and twist it off.

PS: No need to drill a water neck. You already have a hole for a temp sensor.
 
billsdartgt said:
Doc Im sad to see you start to get this deep into the rabbit hole, I am almost out of the other side with all the cleaning, scrubbing, degreasing, and painting, it just plain sucks, but it loooooks so much better - enjoy
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I dont think I'll go as crazy as you since you essentially rebuilt your entire engine

Edit- I'm also not planning on painting it at this time :)
 
Also my night time "work on the car" has been suspended for the evening as someone decided they didnt want to go to bed and mommy is tired

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Daughter went to bed and I spent 2hrs in the garage. Rockers, pushrods (used a pizza box to keep them in order), and lifters out. Headers disconnected and upper head bolts out. Couldn't get the lowers out, I think I'll have to undo the engine mounts and raise the engine I also have the timing cover, chain and camshaft 1/2 out, that dang ac condensor is in the way.

Found a camshaft I can't find much about on the google.

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DentalDart said:
I'm actually more worried about this heater hose fitting, it's so corroded and there isnt a hex head on it from po stripping it out.

Know how to clean out the inside of this dirty corroded intake?

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Crap like that I usually sand blast, then use an aircraft fluid resistant epoxy primer to recoat. You may be able to find a shop that can heat that fitting cherry red and remove it for you.
 
Johnny Dart said:
Getting old fittings out of an intake:
1.Heat the fitting up red hot.
2.Put paraffin wax on the fitting so the wax melts into the threads.
3.Now smack the fitting with a big ******* hammer. This "Shocks" the fitting.
4.Clamp down on the fitting with some vise grips, and twist it off.

PS: No need to drill a water neck. You already have a hole for a temp sensor.
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See that's all perspective. I think drilling and taping a thermostat housing is a better idea than heating and beating on an intake manifold pipe plug that someone else put in, and left to corrode! Your way may leave the manifold useless if someone less skilled tries to remove it. My way, the manifold lives on! To each his own.
 
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moparmandan said:
See that's all perspective. I think drilling and taping a thermostat housing is a better idea than heating and beating on an intake manifold pipe plug that someone else put in, and left to corrode! Your way may leave the manifold useless if someone less skilled tries to remove it. My way, the manifold lives on! To each his own.
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I'm talking about removing the crusty heater hose, and bypass hose fittings. This is how it is done at a machine shop. Any monkey can remove the temp sender and pipe fitting.
 
Johnny Dart said:
I'm talking about removing the crusty heater hose, and bypass hose fittings. This is how it is done at a machine shop. Any monkey can remove the temp sender and pipe fitting.
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No, you mentioned the drilling and tapping of a water neck also. That's what I responded to.

"PS: No need to drill a water neck. You already have a hole for a temp sensor."

Not everybody has machine shop experience. And that doesn't make them a monkey. And doesn't make other ideas bad.
 
DentalDart said:
I'm actually more worried about this heater hose fitting, it's so corroded and there isnt a hex head on it from po stripping it out.

Know how to clean out the inside of this dirty corroded intake?

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Try heat and vise grips. If that doesn't work you can cut it flush and very carefully with a Dremel (this should be right up your alley) split it in two with out screwing up the threads on the intake.
 
moparmandan said:
No, you mentioned the drilling and tapping of a water neck also. That's what I responded to.

"PS: No need to drill a water neck. You already have a hole for a temp sensor."

Not everybody has machine shop experience. And that doesn't make them a monkey. And doesn't make other ideas bad.
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You don't see the temp sender on his intake ?
Put a 7/16 socket on it, and it will come right out.
I don't understand your argument. If there was no place to install a sender great, but its right there. No reason to re-invent the wheel here, unless you are into spending unnecessary money.
 
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Johnny Dart said:
You don't see the temp sender on his intake ?
Put a 7/16 socket on it, and it will come right out.
I don't understand your argument. If there was no place to install a sender great, but its right there. No reason to re-invent the wheel here, unless you are into spending unnecessary money.
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He wants to install an aftermarket mechanical temp sender which evidently is much bigger than the little factory sender your talking about. He wants to put it where a big ole 3/8 crusty pipe plug is. He was concerned about getting that out. A few of us (me included) were giving alternatives. No Biggy, man. We're all here trying to help.
 
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