David Vizard, Uncle Tony's garage, Unity motorsport. Mission impossible Dodge 302 Head porting

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273 said:
That proves nothing unless also ran the same combo with ported 360 heads. No one said 318 can’t perform just not as well.

So is your point is that ported 360 heads would be slower?
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He has a “small” complex. Hysteric thinks that anything he considers ”big” (which in reality isn’t) is a power loser.

He also thinks the ONLY way to get the fuel vaporized is a retardedly small carb, retardedly small ports and retardedly small valves.

He is lost and his mental issues with anything he thinks is ”big” causes him to make idiotic statements.

He‘s a lost cause.
 
Hysteric said:
It proves that Vizard doesn't need a 360 head to make the power he wants and that others don't either.......

The 318 head is more than enough. Would a W2 W5 W8 W9 W9RP make more power.........Same dumb arse logic.
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WHO SAID HE NEEDED A 360 HEAD? No one said that. Stop making **** up.

Let me type this slower so maybe you can grasp it.

I can make more power for less money and effort with a 360 head than you EVER will (or Vizard or actually Servedio who is really doing the heads for this joke of a build) with a ported 302 casting.

Simple as that.

And if you haven’t noticed, the brain trust is shitting the bed because they are talking about angle milling the heads!!!

JUST IDIOTIC.
 
Some one's emotionally unstable...........maybe you need to have a rest.
 
Hysteric said:
It proves that Vizard doesn't need a 360 head to make the power he wants and that others don't either.......

The 318 head is more than enough. Would a W2 W5 W8 W9 W9RP make more power.........Same dumb arse logic.
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I think your miss understanding people don’t see anyone making that argument.

Just that if you start with a 360 head your gonna make eg.. 30-60 hp more mod for mod over a 318 head.

If this build was with 4bbl doubt he’d even need to port to make 318 hp.
 
Hysteric said:
There's a guy at the track with a 318 with that runs mid 12's with a low 60ft @ around 3400 pounds. Its a street car with a small 218 @ 50 Hydraulic cam.

Uses 3.23 gears a stock converter and 225 street tire's. Oh and he uses ported 318 heads with stock size valves..........I guess smart people just "USE" the airflow they get where as others need more flow because they USE less of it.......That should mess up a few peoples brains for a while if not eternity.

He doesn't need big heads a big cam and a big stall converter to get the car down the track...........ITS A STREET CAR and yet it runs mid 12's with 318 cubes.

I'll let you clowns figure out the "USE" or Utilization aspect. If you think an engine is an air pump then keep putting bigger heads on it eventually you'll USE some of it to go faster.

The sharpest guys in the game focus on what the fuel is doing not what the airflow is doing. Those guys don't post here for some reason.......

Oh and while I'm at it Modern Street fuels DONT VAPORIZE like the fuels did in the 70's so they need more energy imputation to get them to the state so they can be combusted. BIG Ports and Big valves and Big carbs work against that fact. That may be too much for some here to get their heads around.......

And before you agree with this post realize it contradicts what most here are arguing for.
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Please define "a low 60'". Even 340's aren't well known for bottom torque and stock converters with 3.23 gears don't help either.
 
Steve Bloom said:
I have a question. I bought a 318 complete motor from a friend who needed money. It came out of a '69 Charger. I haven't done anything to it, or even looked at it, sits in the back of the shop on an engine stand along with 4 other motors from different automakers. Where would I find any information about the motor, the heads, etc.? Thanks in advance. By the way I enjoy reading the back and forth between two people who under different circumstances could have been great car buddies with each other.

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The '69 318 that you purchased will have the open chamber heads, 9.2:1 cr flat top valve relief pistons. Factory rated at 230 hp.

Just putting a 4 bbl on it even with the stock cam gives them the fuel they need, wakes them up nicely.

As pictured here in this stock '69 Satellite 318.

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Notice the stock cast iron water pump for 1969.

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9.2:1 stock flat top pistons for 1969 that sit .040 ths. down in the hole. Full floating rods too.

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Rat Bastid said:
UNREAL. Charlie Servedio just dropped a new video and in it he says they are probably going to angle mill the heads.

What a F’ing waste of money and time. This thing gets more ridiculous every day.
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AH AHAHHAHAAHA

this is delicious. inject it directly into my veins.
 
Rat Bastid said:
WHO SAID HE NEEDED A 360 HEAD? No one said that. Stop making **** up.

Let me type this slower so maybe you can grasp it.

I can make more power for less money and effort with a 360 head than you EVER will (or Vizard or actually Servedio who is really doing the heads for this joke of a build) with a ported 302 casting.

Simple as that.

And if you haven’t noticed, the brain trust is shitting the bed because they are talking about angle milling the heads!!!

JUST IDIOTIC.
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Surprised that nobody has not mentioned what happens to stock 1972 318 compression ratio when 360 heads gets bolted onto it.

7.5 cr is about where it comes in.

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you dont need the best heads to make 325 hp,...but if you shooting for 425 youll need better than 302s, this turd been kicked around this forum tooooo many times!! some folks gotta go for every hp thay can while some just wanta run good nuff to not be in the way,... yall ease up a lil bit, enjoy ya love for mopars and have a merry christmas!!! ....DWB
 
273 said:
Just that if you start with a 360 head your gonna make eg.. 30-60 hp more mod for mod over a 318 head.
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Maybe David doesn't need to start with a 360 head.........
 
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justinp61 said:
Please define "a low 60'". Even 340's aren't well known for bottom torque and stock converters with 3.23 gears don't help either.
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Some where in the 1.60's from memory. MPH was around 105.

273 said:
Never said he did, and I don't want him to
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Maybe just Maybe David knows what he is doing and doesn't want or need a 360 head. Sit back and let David do his thing and see what he ends up with.
 
Rat Bastid said:
Not at all. I blame no one. If getting kicked off a forum wrecks your world then you have issues that need to be addressed.


I interpreted NOTHING. You are slimy like that.

The discussion is (and this is what you don’t like) why the morons doing this project are wasting time and money on 302 castings when they can start with a 360 casting AND make more power AND spend less money.

You of course think you are the greatest head Porter in the world so you can do a big and voodoo and make that garbage 302 head something it’s not.

And so, your posting the Duster picture was trying to convey that he’s running 320 heads when in fact he’s not and in FACT you KNEW that but tried to palm it off that way.

And then you got called on it. If Crackedback doesn’t set the record straight, anyone reading your post would come to the conclusion he’s running 302 castings.

So it’s disingenuous at best. Some would call it a bald faced lie. I’m too nice for that so I’ll say it was disingenuous and leave it at that.
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You as usual miss the whole point of the thread. You're comprehension has not improved over the last two or three weeks. You should just shut the hell up. Cuz we're all tired of hearing your crap. And as for that being a duster if you look at the front fender that is a Dodge Dart or Demon Fender not a duster so Mr Mopar tell us how you are all knowing and wise. You suck.
 
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dirty white boy said:
never said who the pig was,..or how many think this is WWE!!
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People will chose who they think is their respective pig in your analogy. But just remember I enjoy bacon with my eggs in the morning..

The funniest part in all this is people getting worked up over the fact David didn't chose to do it their way.
 
DV is going with the pistons to up Cr this should help when and if they add the bigger heads. DV dnt know dick about mopar said as much and I suppose f you have flow benches and people willing to grind and polish heads as a "charity donation" you can do just about anythng...look what the Chrysker engineers did when they took the 318 ddesign and made it into the 340 hell they recast the whole block and heads....:)
 
Hysteric said:
Some where in the 1.60's from memory. MPH was around 105.


Maybe just Maybe David knows what he is doing and doesn't want or need a 360 head. Sit back and let David do his thing and see what he ends up with.
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For a stock converter, 3.23 gears, 225 tire and 3400 pounds that's very good. For comparison my Dart was 3240 with an aluminum headed 340, 11.4-1 compression, 230/236° @ .050", .580"ish lift hydraulic cam, 4.30 gears, 9.5" converter that flashed 5400 on a 275 dr. It ran mid 1.50 60', 11.60 @ 116 in the 1/4, 7.24 @ 94 in the 1/8.
 
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