Dual quads versus big hammer!!!...

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Cudafever said:
:lol:
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Dual quad tunnel ram Guru...
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j par said:
What leads you to believe that???...
And where is your friend PRH to join in casting the doubt on me... Oh yeah and Pittsburgh the budget racer with the $1,800 EFI carb pictured up there and the four-year-old nitrous setup in his spare bedroom...
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At least I’m not building the worlds most expensive 12 second race vehicles. Lmao
 
Both brand new carburetors and brand new tunnel ram $1000... How much was the EFI?
pittsburghracer said:
If we both had cars that ran 11.0’s I would probably beat you to the finish line by a second. You test n tuners can’t cut a light worth a darn. Lol.
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and don't forget about your better 60-foot time with all that weight transferring to the back tires..lol...
 
Even if you weighed a 100 pounds, and PBR was at 1100 pounds(100 pound, per tenth of a sec.) And it caused him to run a sec slower in your car......Hmmmmm
Now let's just say that this was a True Statement. I'm even more impressed at how Fast his Car is.
 
Cudafever said:
Even if you weighed a 100 pounds, and PBR was at 1100 pounds(100 pound, per tenth of a sec.) And it caused him to run a sec slower in your car......Hmmmmm
Now let's just say that this was a True Statement. I'm even more impressed at how Fast his Car is.
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What I heard was PBR is 1100 lb...lol..
 
Cudafever said:
Even if you weighed a 100 pounds, and PBR was at 1100 pounds(100 pound, per tenth of a sec.) And it caused him to run a sec slower in your car......Hmmmmm
Now let's just say that this was a True Statement. I'm even more impressed at how Fast his Car is.
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Take it easy on J Par. He’s easily confused. Pssss psssss.
 
pittsburghracer said:
Take it easy on J Par. He’s easily confused. Pssss psssss.
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Anyways the point of the threat is there's plenty of people that don't know how to tune their carburetors let alone tuning two carburetors that are virtually unheard of running together... Some people just buy a real expensive EFI and let it tune itself..
 
While others like Cudafever go on a lifelong adventure of buying parts and puzzling them together..
 
j par said:
RIGHT!??..
Everything I red and that's on every brand and style dual quad set up I could find on the internet said this was NOT a short road... There is the ONE eight year old article that mentions the holes in the secondary flaps, but absolutely nothing on jetting.. after all the reading and at least 10 tries that I wrote down and at least another five that I didn't I finally have it sorted out for the street...:thumbsup:
As far as I know (which ain't much) I'm the only one who has tried this on a tunnel ram...
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One thing I have told my sons more times than they care to hear is...

You just have to be more stubborn than what your'e working on, whether its a car or a house...

And then they tell me that when I have computer problems....!!
 
Mopar Sam said:
One thing I have told my sons more times than they care to hear is...

You just have to be more stubborn than what your'e working on, whether its a car or a house...

And then they tell me that when I have computer problems....!!
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I'm sure I have more to do on these carbs, but I like where I'm at... a lot!..
 
Plan is to pull the carbs off tomorrow and take out 80 Jets from secondaries and put in 78's in that I have..
My problems: first I'm not sure the air doors are opening all of the way or if they ever will??.. Again the transition feels good.. It feels strong and the plugs are okay... But the AF gauge says still a point or more to rich a wot...
A little hard to tell for sure with the track closed..
I know with the Edelbrocks they recommend going up and down the same jet sizes in the back as the front...
My Guru mind (BIG LOL..) tells me I shouldn't waist my time with the 78's and go straight to the 76's...
What to do....
 
j par said:
Plan is to pull the carbs off tomorrow and take out 80 Jets from secondaries and put in 78's in that I have..
My problems: first I'm not sure the air doors are opening all of the way or if they ever will??.. Again the transition feels good.. It feels strong and the plugs are okay... But the AF gauge says still a point or more to rich a wot...
A little hard to tell for sure with the track closed..
I know with the Edelbrocks they recommend going up and down the same jet sizes in the back as the front...
My Guru mind (BIG LOL..) tells me I shouldn't waist my time with the 78's and go straight to the 76's...
What to do....
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If you have a go pro or similar, you could stick it to the windshield and take a video of the doors and their position.
 
Am I wrong in thinking that the air doors not opening all the way would richen the secondaries?
 
Mopar Sam said:
Am I wrong in thinking that the air doors not opening all the way would richen the secondaries?
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You know that was my thinking as well and the last time I drove the car I brought the 7/16 wrench and a thin screwdriver to make an adjustment on those.. but of course I have to take the air filters off to watch them. The last time I was out I was just kind of enjoying that the car was running so well, I didn't stop and make any adjustments.. I'm wanting to take the carburetors off anyways for testing the fuel side of my nitrous setup. I have those 78 Jets and I'll put those in.. also on my next test drive I will go ahead and take the filters off and make some more adjustments with the doors before I go any lower on the secondary Jets.. the yellow pollen coming out of the trees is so thick I just don't like running no filters at the moment.. which reminds me I need to clean those k&n filters as well...
I know they do open but they don't like flick wide open..
 
yellow rose said:
If you have a go pro or similar, you could stick it to the windshield and take a video of the doors and their position.
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I can visually see them from the driver's seat with the air filters off..
I do have a GoPro but it frustrates me too much and I haven't used it in years. I did have one great video where I put it on top of my wife's helmet when we are snowmobile and my friend crashing in the ditch and my wife laughing when it happened LOL we kept replaying it and replaying it was too funny..
 
j par said:
You know that was my thinking as well and the last time I drove the car I brought the 7/16 wrench and a thin screwdriver to make an adjustment on those.. but of course I have to take the air filters off to watch them. The last time I was out I was just kind of enjoying that the car was running so well, I didn't stop and make any adjustments.. I'm wanting to take the carburetors off anyways for testing the fuel side of my nitrous setup. I have those 78 Jets and I'll put those in.. also on my next test drive I will go ahead and take the filters off and make some more adjustments with the doors before I go any lower on the secondary Jets.. the yellow pollen coming out of the trees is so thick I just don't like running no filters at the moment.. which reminds me I need to clean those k&n filters as well...
I know they do open but they don't like flick wide open..
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My mom told me the pollen over there is out of control. Glad I’m out of that crapola. We just have goat heads over here.
 
So I did my usual and changed three things at once.. LOL...
While I had the carbs off I changed the secondary jets from the stock 80's to 78's.. and backed off the air doors a half turn.. leaving only one full turn tension on the doors...
My thinking was smaller Jets more air...
Now the secondaries won't read so rich on the AF gauge I'm thinking...
Also after I drove it for a little while and warmed it up it was still showing rich on idol about 12.4.... so I turn the idle screws and a half turn on the front carburetor and that seemed to bring it to the 13.4 that I like...
On the primary side it was driving fine and showing better numbers on part throttle and cruise but when I come to a stop it would go extremely lean and idle down very far, acting as if it wanted to die but never did..
On the secondaries when I gave it full trottle it seemed to be too lean like 13 something 14 something...
Pulled the car into a parking lot and adjusted a half turn out on the carburetor where it was and a half turn tighter on the air doors where they were...
The idle went back to 12 something and smoother and acting normal when I came to a stop... And the secondaries win pretty darn rich according to the AF gauge again..
So my conclusion is I'm within a half turn on the secondary air doors and within a half turn on the front carburetor...
 
My problem is do I want my air doors to cover my lean problem? Wouldn't it be better if air doors open all the way and the jetting was correct? ...
 
j par said:
My problem is do I want my air doors to cover my lean problem? Wouldn't it be better if air doors open all the way and the jetting was correct? ...
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bingo! But again, my mind races to a TQ.
 
Hey, get them dang things tuned already so you can "Push the button" in your other thread!!!!
 
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