Fukushima Leaking 300 TON's A Day For Two Years

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YY1 said:
There's WAY too much money left to be made in fossil fuels, and way too much money already available for the industry to payoff, buy out, lobby against, and ruin any competition.

You think prices and profits are out of control now, just wait a few decades.

Full disclusure- I own stock in several oil and gas companies.
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problem is they will burn to the ground our entire earth to make a buck...
 
Whoa, easy there! take off the new tennis shoes and put down the Cool aid. Its not time yet!
 
Well, it appears that the "radiation filtration system" we built 2 years ago at our shop for that thing either didn't do it's job or was just a political stunt. Hmmm, saddening.
 
I caint wait for the explosion. It's gonna be a bigun.
 
RustyRatRod said:
I caint wait for the explosion. It's gonna be a bigun.
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That has me wondering/thinking... (everybody stand back, I'm thinking, and it could get ugly) Mind you these are just brain-farts, and mean no offense...unless they stink that badly :D

What's the downside to just letting (or forcing) that damn thing go "Chernobyl" right off the bat? VS : Letting the crippled plant ooze that crap into the world's water supply for next 20k years.

No matter how you look at and no matter what's done to salvage the situation, Fukushima (and much of japan in general) is going to be a dark stain on the map, in the form of a radiation sign/logo for longer than history will be able to recall.


Or how about we just shut down all the Nuclear Reactors, load up those spent fuel cells, and deposit them on Mars in containers and never touch the idea of using the stuff ever again.
 
What would we use then? Coal? This current administration has demonized coal so badly they have almost ruined the coal industry.
 
74Dusted said:
Or how about we just shut down all the Nuclear Reactors, load up those spent fuel cells, and deposit them on Mars in containers and never touch the idea of using the stuff ever again.
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The DOE has built a place out here in Nevada inside a mountain for those spent rods...unfortunately after billions of dollars being spent.....nothing is stored in there due to politics....
 
RustyRatRod said:
What would we use then? Coal? This current administration has demonized coal so badly they have almost ruined the coal industry.
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im a big believer in solar, but not 1000 acre plots out in the middle of the desert... im talking a system that cont produce enough for that house, on every house...

should be be trying to ween off fossil fuels? of course! but will the go away entirely... no!

this is no different than New Orleans, the indians told the french NOT to build in that location as it was to low and close to the water, the french told them savages to take a hike. and look what happened... building a plant right near the ocean, or other hazards like fault lines (diablo canyon in central CA) is insane...

as for letting the plant go i dont think Chernobyl would hold a candle to that plant if it was just let go. Chernobyl was one reactor, with this plant there are multiple reactors (10 total) right next to each other.
 
RustyRatRod said:
What would we use then? Coal? This current administration has demonized coal so badly they have almost ruined the coal industry.
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A rock and a hard place then...that sucks.

I kinda like 805moparkid's idea of Solar Panels at each house (at least until you stop and think what that would cost each and every person in terms of "start up" / equipment)

Come to think of it, most regions have enough of one or more methods of powering alternative energy sources. Be it sunshine, wind, water flow, etc. I've even heard that there are people that generate an excess of their own power, to the point where the local power companies have to buy the excess from them. (boy wouldn't that be cool :D )

Of course I'm pretty much talking out of my butt here, since this is all beyond me.
 
Make no mistake about it, the technology is there to do it now. It would mark the end of our dependency on fossil fuel and the power companies, so it will never happen.

805moparkid said:
im a big believer in solar, but not 1000 acre plots out in the middle of the desert... im talking a system that cont produce enough for that house, on every house...

should be be trying to ween off fossil fuels? of course! but will the go away entirely... no!

this is no different than New Orleans, the indians told the french NOT to build in that location as it was to low and close to the water, the french told them savages to take a hike. and look what happened... building a plant right near the ocean, or other hazards like fault lines (diablo canyon in central CA) is insane...

as for letting the plant go i dont think Chernobyl would hold a candle to that plant if it was just let go. Chernobyl was one reactor, with this plant there are multiple reactors (10 total) right next to each other.
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Anyone seen pics of most of Germany, lately?

Solar on nearly every roof.

Germans are making money on it.

Just google and try to find US solar companies (not service companies, manufacturing companies)- they're 90% German.


I believe Yucca Mtn is in Arizona...and John McCain (R) said "NIMBY" (not in my back yard) Smart guy. One of the few politicians I actually like (when he's not in party politics mode).
 
NO...Yucca mountain is in Nevada..about 125 miles north of Vegas just off US 95...about 15 miles north of Beatty NV....have driven by it a few hundred times...lol

Hariless Reid...stopping it...probably can not make any money on it...so he is against it...
 
I just wanna see the explosion. They should sell cruises.
 
74Dusted said:
I kinda like 805moparkid's idea of Solar Panels at each house (at least until you stop and think what that would cost each and every person in terms of "start up" / equipment)

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Which is why I'm so pissed. Grid tie technology is here, plug and play, for residential/ small business sized installs.

All we need is for someone like Gates or the US govt to offer low interest loans and other incentives so that lower/ mid class can afford to install them. Some of these will have a 10-15 year payoff, and it should be happening NOW

This IS a reality in places in Europe. It does not need research and development. It is HERE
 
If you really want solar- here's what you can do now.

1- Solar float charger for your project car battery $ under $50- Why the hell not?

2- Solar water heater "helper". $ kinda large up front, but system life is supposed to be 10-12 years and payback is supposed to be 3-5 years. I think $2K

3- If you have a pool- solar pool heater.

that's what's here now and reasonably cost effective.
 
Yes, conserving energy is a wise thing to do, but this country needs to run on the cheapest energy available, coal, and natural gas! The wind farms out in western Iowa will never get paid for, I think they are even up north here in Michigan, although I have not seen them yet. Here in town they have cut the nuts off the coal plant that has been here for 50 years, to spend the money and build a new natural gas plant for millions of dollars. probably not the worst decision made, but why not put the money into making the coal plant efficient and clean??? The nuclear plant in south haven is scrutinized so bad, the media points out the burned out light bulb in the men's room, and they shut it down. All of these great energy ideas are govt. subsidized, and will just be money pissed down the drain!
 
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