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How important is it to replace the gas line...(the line from tank to filter) on a car that has sat and not run for maybe 20 - 30 plus years..? I know when the tank came out the gas smelled like maybe varnish ..? VERY strong smell.
I already have the new line, so most may say to just swap it, but I'm finding it's a major pain in the *** to remove the old one... and before I go to yanking, twisting, bitching and punching something, is it really necessary and worth it..?
If so, any good tips on removal and install..?? 72 Demon.
T.I.A..!
 
dadsbee said:
It just clips on, other than 2 tube clamps and bolts.
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I guess it's more of the installation that I'm thinking will be a pain. My gas line runs with the vapor line that goes from tank to charcoal canister. Just the start of removing the gas line I can tell it may be an issue going back in as far as not crimping or over bending.
 
It is actually somewhat an easy job, I find it easier to remove the rear wheel for better access (front is off for other reasons).

Part of what makes it difficult to get the line out is the undercoating, I found it easier to pull the clips with the line. There is one clip midpoint on the rocker that is rammed up, it must be pulled out.
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Alan
 
Are you making your own, or did you buy the pre bent kit?

The full brake line from front to back runs similar on the opposite side of the car ( I just finished this today). I made my own brake line bending it the same way that the factory did. It was not hat difficult to install. You start by pushing the forward section through the torsion bar crossmember from the rear. The rest of it was pretty easy to lay into position.......I assume the fuel line install will be similar.
 
Did you replace the fuel tank? If the tank was bad enough to replace, the fuel line will be just as bad.
If the tank was good, chances are the line will be okay, too. But no guarantees on that... and if you have an old tank full of crud, a new line won't solve anything for long.
If you reuse the old line, disconnect it at the tank (you should be replacing all the old rubber hoses anyhow, fifty year old hose doesn't play nice with modern ethanol fuels) and put some air pressure on it. If it blows freely, you're halfway there. Then clamp the hose at the front of the car with a vicegrip and put air pressure on it again- it should pressurize, and if there are any leaks you'll be able to tell. Then I like to pump some Evaporust into it with a Miteyvac or equivalent, and let it sit overnight. Then blow it out again and pump some fuel through it until it comes out clean. Then hook it all back up with new (EFI rated) hose and clamps. Don't forget the grounding jumper at the tank connection, or your fuel gauge won't work.
Honestly, by the time you do all this, you probably could have just replaced the fuel line anyway...
 
nodemon said:
How was the install..? What car..?
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Wayback machine.... 64 Plymouth. Inline Tube swap. Went well. PITA getting around the rear shock and axle but the rest was pretty straighforward. I replaced the clips and it runs through the transmission cross member. Took maybe 25 minutes?
 
My 2 cents...

If you can blow compressed air through the existing tube from the sender (disconnected) to the fuel pump (disconnected) then the line is at least open.

do a pressure test on the tube. cap off one end and put a valve on the other. Give it 20 PSI air pressure and close the valve. Disconnect the air hose and check back in 24 hours
 
Professor Fate said:
Did you replace the fuel tank? If the tank was bad enough to replace, the fuel line will be just as bad.
If the tank was good, chances are the line will be okay, too. But no guarantees on that... and if you have an old tank full of crud, a new line won't solve anything for long.
If you reuse the old line, disconnect it at the tank (you should be replacing all the old rubber hoses anyhow, fifty year old hose doesn't play nice with modern ethanol fuels) and put some air pressure on it. If it blows freely, you're halfway there. Then clamp the hose at the front of the car with a vicegrip and put air pressure on it again- it should pressurize, and if there are any leaks you'll be able to tell. Then I like to pump some Evaporust into it with a Miteyvac or equivalent, and let it sit overnight. Then blow it out again and pump some fuel through it until it comes out clean. Then hook it all back up with new (EFI rated) hose and clamps. Don't forget the grounding jumper at the tank connection, or your fuel gauge won't work.
Honestly, by the time you do all this, you probably could have just replaced the fuel line anyway...
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I bought a new tank from Tanks Inc. The fuel line is pre-bent.. I did replace my brake lines with the pre-bent ones.. not too bad, but being on my back is not too easy or good for me.. That may be my biggest problem.
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CFD244 said:
Are you making your own, or did you buy the pre bent kit?

The full brake line from front to back runs similar on the opposite side of the car ( I just finished this today). I made my own brake line bending it the same way that the factory did. It was not hat difficult to install. You start by pushing the forward section through the torsion bar crossmember from the rear. The rest of it was pretty easy to lay into position.......I assume the fuel line install will be similar.
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Pre-bent.. I did my pre-bent brake lines a couple weeks ago.. not too bad.
 
Get the full line in place before putting any of the clips in. The fuel line also has a bolt down clip in the rear.


Alan
 
Something I learned taking the lines out.

Get the car up off the ground as high as is safe!

More room to rotate the assy
 
@nodemon , your thread reminded me I had a replacement fuel line in the corner waiting on me to install it and I didn't have anything else to do today.

I bought the line about a year and a half ago when I also bought a cam snout extension to get rid of the electric fuel on my Magnum. I did the cam snout extension back then, but didn't install the new fuel line.

I took my time and and spent maybe 2 hours total. But I also removed the electric pump that was still mounted.

All very good advice given above. One thing to add. Slide the beginning of the line over the top of the emergency brake cable when first beginning. I didn't, but just removed the guide and was able to separate the two ends of the cable in the "connector" and move the fuel line up.

A little slight bending to get the back end up over the axle, but in the end it looks like a factory install. Like mentioned above, I had two screw in fuel line clips on the rear frame rail.

Didn't get a photo of the new line, but here's the old one!!
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66fyssh said:
@nodemon , your thread reminded me I had a replacement fuel line in the corner waiting on me to install it and I didn't have anything else to do today.

I bought the line about a year and a half ago when I also bought a cam snout extension to get rid of the electric fuel on my Magnum. I did the cam snout extension back then, but didn't install the new fuel line.

I took my time and and spent maybe 2 hours total. But I also removed the electric pump that was still mounted.

All very good advice given above. One thing to add. Slide the beginning of the line over the top of the emergency brake cable when first beginning. I didn't, but just removed the guide and was able to separate the two ends of the cable in the "connector" and move the fuel line up.

A little slight bending to get the back end up over the axle, but in the end it looks like a factory install. Like mentioned above, I had two screw in fuel line clips on the rear frame rail.

Didn't get a photo of the new line, but here's the old one!!
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Glad I was the motivation for you to get yours installed..lol
Did you cut your old one to remove it..? Is that the two pieces in the picture..?
Not sure how different our lines are, but in the pic your line looks a lot more "straight" than mine...unless yours was bent some to remove.
I tried for a couple hours or more to get mine in, but was unsuccessful. Even removed the shock and wheel on the fuel line side...but just wasn't working out. I'll try again in a few days.
 
nodemon said:
Glad I was the motivation for you to get yours installed..lol
Did you cut your old one to remove it..? Is that the two pieces in the picture..?
Not sure how different our lines are, but in the pic your line looks a lot more "straight" than mine...unless yours was bent some to remove.
I tried for a couple hours or more to get mine in, but was unsuccessful. Even removed the shock and wheel on the fuel line side...but just wasn't working out. I'll try again in a few days.
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Mine was already cut from when I installed the electric fuel pump.

I started by disconnecting the line on the fuel pump side. For more access I removed the alternator. Then I pulled the line from all the clips. After that, I just grabbed the line and started pulling. It came out a little, then jammed on the header so I had to push down to unjam it. Back to yanking...this time using my leg against the crossmember. Once it broke loose, it came right on out.

I'm working on a 66 Barracuda, so it may be straighter than yours. What amazed me was how quickly the engine started after the install. It only turned over a couple...three times and fired right up!

Good idea to take a break and hit it later.
 
Taking it out shouldn't be difficult...Cut it up in as many pieces as need be to get it out of there....What am I missing?
 
CFD244 said:
Taking it out shouldn't be difficult...Cut it up in as many pieces as need be to get it out of there....What am I missing?
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I didn't cut mine up... Definitely would have made it a bit easier, but I just wanted to try and keep it in one piece to match the new line to it...Turns out that was pretty much unnecessary... Anyway, my problem is the installation of the new one... Restricted space doesn't help.
 
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