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I always shake them and kind of gently rough them up directly over the location I harvest them before putting them in the sack. Kind of same principle as the netting. And you are super accurate on the turfy thing. Holy smokes it is almost as bad as ginseng hunting. And if you are on BLM land small protected pot patches are a thing.I think giving them a good flick of the finger would help before putting them in the bread sack too. Haven't seen to many lately. Used to get them by the buckets after a forest fire but man that kind of dangerous these days. People follow those fires and get real territorial about it.